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Tesla to install Superchargers at "all" Fred Meyers store locations?
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Drone Flyer
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Thanks, good to know. So it seems like many Fred Meyers are possible future locations for new Superchargers. Excellent!
Preface: I'm not complaining, nor will I ever, about more Superchargers. However, is a grocery store a good choice for road trip recharging stops? My cynical side tells me that these locations will be prone to ICEing and opportunity charging events. On the bright side, I'll enjoy getting fresh groceries instead of what I consider to be disgusting road food options.
When the first tax credits and gov incentives came to OR to install EV chargers, (AV Network) installed a lot of the Level 3 chargers at Fred Meyer locations in rural areas (Redmond, Coos Bay, The Dalles, Scapoose, Tilamook, Brookings). So I can assume corporate was heavily involved early on. I don't know about "every" location, but I would assume at a lot more locations.
And @ohmman the locations that have put superchargers that I have been to (Bend, Sandy), they are located at the back or rear areas, they are not prone to ICE. Also they make great locations, not the best, but far from the worst.
And @ohmman the locations that have put superchargers that I have been to (Bend, Sandy), they are located at the back or rear areas, they are not prone to ICE. Also they make great locations, not the best, but far from the worst.
Not that I'm a PNW native, but it's a bit more than that. It's more like a super target or upscale super Walmart. And at least in bend and sandy, there's the requisite ancillary businesses around the mega store and thus, at least a few eateries within walking distance.
larmor
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Not sure this is for travelers. If they are at grocery stores, this would be a great fit as store visits are about 20-30 min. The longer the customer is in the store the more profitable that visit is for the store. Given the right equation and modeling likely there is an ideal amount of time and amount of customers that can basically pay for the SC site.
dgpcolorado
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I realize that it is a minority view here, but my favorite Supercharger Station amenity, besides a restroom, is a grocery store since I don't bother with restaurants when traveling. Although Fred Meyer is much more than just a grocery store IME.
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Hannaford grocery stores have put CHADEMO chargers at some of their Maine stores and I've written to encourage more. I think the charge time is too long for just coffee, too short for dinner, and just right for a bit of shopping. With long range batteries becoming standard this is not so much for locals but to capture travelers.
I think it's more about parking lot size than anything. The parking lots for some of these really big all-in-one grocery stores in small towns are gigantic and usually not much more than half full. It's the place that actually has the room to allow a row of 8 or 10 parking spots for a Supercharger without inconveniencing most of the shoppers.
I've been to many Superchargers from California to Kansas and think grocery stores are a great location. Normally they have huge parking lots so ICEing shouldn't be a problem. Another thing to consider is that there could be dozens of grocery stores in each metro area. They wouldn't need to install 8 to 12 Superchargers at each location. If each store had a few chargers, travelers could easily stop at one without needing to detour too far off their regular route. I would expect the grocery stores to be open 24 hours a day so they would always be open to travelers. The grocery stores that I shop at usually have a deli or a restaurant or various hot and cold food bars which allow a variety of ready-to-eat food to be bought. You also have the rest of the store to choose from and I'm sure anyone could find something to snack on. This would be a great improvement over the Superchargers on I-70 in Kansas which are often located at hotels. Some don't have restaurants nearby and those that are nearby aren't necessarily open 24 hours a day. Many of them only have fast food.
Grocery stores often have loyalty programs which provide discounts on gas. By providing Superchargers to shoppers/travelers, they could provide a similar benefit to EV drivers.
3rd, actually. Hy-Vee has been a go-to location in the midwest for a bit now.
Yeah, my worry was more about local congestion and ICEing. But as some have mentioned, if the parking lots are huge, and the stalls are located appropriately far away, ICE shouldn't be a problem. And, of course, I'm forgetting new vehicles don't have unlimited Supercharging.
I will be through Bend in June with my Airstream and plan to stock up while I'm Supercharging at that location!
I will be through Bend in June with my Airstream and plan to stock up while I'm Supercharging at that location!
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
I expect to hit Bend in August around the time of the eclipse. My sister lives an hour north of Bend (Crooked River Ranch) near the path of totality; thought I'd view the eclipse from Madras, if the weather cooperates.
ProphetM
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Fred Meyer is more of an all-inclusive location. They typically have a supermarket section, segmented areas like a Target, plus fully separated electronics and jewelry departments. The deli area usually has cafeteria-style selections of cold and hot food as well as drinks and seating. The parking lot often has a big gas station as well.
I do think the Fred Meyer manager in Klamath Falls might have been a little overly-optimistic, just because Fred Meyer locations are not necessarily spaced appropriately for superchargers. However I think for electric charging overall he may be right. I seem to recall that the Fred Meyer in Brookings, OR already had some EV charging when I was there last summer, while the Supercharger in Crescent City was being built at the time and is less than 30 miles away. There can also be multiple Fred Meyers even in cities of modest size such as Medford.
Although, having a bunch of chargers at large grocery stores would be a good way to help with charging problems at home.
In the Capital District of NY there are five Hannafords offering CHAdeMO/CCS. I wonder how many the chain has overall.
(EVgo and 100A max units).
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I just messaged Fred Meyers and thanked them for their participating in the supercharger program and how I personally prioritize locations with EV charging. Above is the link for others to do so (if interested)
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I just messaged Fred Meyers and thanked them for their participating in the supercharger program and how I personally prioritize locations with EV charging. Above is the link for others to do so (if interested)
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