That is true, a 4 door cab plus 8 foot bed is long. However, the 8-12 cylinder longitudinally mounted engine gets removed from the front allowing much less hood.
Weight capacity with air suspension should not impact the dimensions though.
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That is true, a 4 door cab plus 8 foot bed is long. However, the 8-12 cylinder longitudinally mounted engine gets removed from the front allowing much less hood.
Weight capacity with air suspension should not impact the dimensions though.
I have a 4 door 5 foot bed right now and it barely fits my garage. That also is the most popular configuration currently sold in trucks (for just that garage reason!). Anything bigger than that is, IMO, a huge mistake for Tesla. You can save some room in the front but not 4 feet, maybe 2 feet but even so that would look awfully strange. If I can't park in the garage, I cannot charge a truck, not to mention parking a guaranteed over 100k truck outside is just asking for trouble.
I'm a Ford Raptor owner now (4-door cab, 5.5 ft box) and can just squeeze it into my garage. Parking spots in almost every place I visit (even here in Alberta, where the pickup truck is not only king, but also queen and both princes) are too narrow and in some cases too short. The mock-up image shown on the Semi unveiling, of a Semi-like (and sized) rig with a bed and an F-series in the bed, is not the truck for me.
Having said that, the reason I have a truck in the first place is for the stupefyingly heavy snow my area sees. In fact just this past week we had a dump of over 50cm (18+ inches) that forced even me to sideline the Raptor and stay home snowbound for 2 days. Other family members with SUVs routinely find themselves high-centering their axles on the snow drifts.
The mock-up shown on the Semi unveiling may or may not have been a joke, but it looked to be pretty low to the ground. Between the industry workers and the recreationalists, I don't think you're going to find many people interested in a slammed pickup truck. I live 10 minutes from a major off-road recreation area and my stock Raptor is frequently one of the shortest trucks there.
I'm expecting to be able to look at getting my first Tesla sometime in 2020 or 2021 (and probably keeping the Raptor as my "toy"). If the offerings stay the same as they appear now (assuming the pickup mock-up is what comes to market), I'm still looking towards a 3.
Having said that, the reason I have a truck in the first place is for the stupefyingly heavy snow my area sees. In fact just this past week we had a dump of over 50cm (18+ inches) that forced even me to sideline the Raptor and stay home snowbound for 2 days. Other family members with SUVs routinely find themselves high-centering their axles on the snow drifts.
The mock-up shown on the Semi unveiling may or may not have been a joke, but it looked to be pretty low to the ground. Between the industry workers and the recreationalists, I don't think you're going to find many people interested in a slammed pickup truck. I live 10 minutes from a major off-road recreation area and my stock Raptor is frequently one of the shortest trucks there.
I'm expecting to be able to look at getting my first Tesla sometime in 2020 or 2021 (and probably keeping the Raptor as my "toy"). If the offerings stay the same as they appear now (assuming the pickup mock-up is what comes to market), I'm still looking towards a 3.
I think the truck hauling a truck was not the intended design.
Going to the adjustable bed idea. Since there is no driveshaft, the rear axle/drive unit and rear portion of the frame could be one unit. A two piece bed on frame rails could give a 4.5- 8 foot range. To change length, the truck would unlock the frame, run the rear motors to adjust the length, then relock the frame.
This setup keeps the crumple zone intact and only requires minimal extra hardware. Fifth wheel capacity is maintained by having that as part of the rear module. Really crazy would be a three section version that goes to 12 feet plus tailgate for hauling siding...
DarkHelmet
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Having owned...
Mazda B2300
Ford Ranger
Silverado Z71
Ram 1500
Ram 2500 Cummins
If the Tesla Truck is anything even close to the 2019 Ram 1500 I’ll throw down the first deposit.
I’d buy that scaled down Semi monster but I’d like to be able to fit it in my garage. Something I couldn’t do with my 2500.
Mazda B2300
Ford Ranger
Silverado Z71
Ram 1500
Ram 2500 Cummins
If the Tesla Truck is anything even close to the 2019 Ram 1500 I’ll throw down the first deposit.
I’d buy that scaled down Semi monster but I’d like to be able to fit it in my garage. Something I couldn’t do with my 2500.
DarkHelmet
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If I’m 100% honest, it would fit with the mirrors folded but then my wife could barely get in her Jeep and I had to slither my way into the truck. Getting the kids/car seat in or walking around the garage? Forget about it. Had about 2” to spare front and rear and had to be parked perfectly. Always left it outside because while possible, it wasn’t liveable.
Sounds like you need two vehicles with a good version of summon (and well placed charge cables) .
DarkHelmet
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Sounds like you need two vehicles with a good version of summon (and well placed charge cables) .
Just had the 240 outlets dropped in my garage. Tesla Solar install set for December. Actively trying to decide right now if I wait until 2019 for the next MX update, or buy an inventory now for the tax credit.
Already started saving for the truck like I did previously for the Model 3. I'll have this car paid off before they do the reservations, so I'll be ready. That 500 mile range tease is just too tempting, especially for my road trips to Vegas. Three charging stops instead of seven? Yes, please.
Barklikeadog
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My enthusiasm is waning. I want one in the worst way, but if you can't get parts or repairs in a reasonable time, I just can't do it. Truck owners won't put up with that and they don't want cars as loaners.
That's fair. To be honest, I do not expect a firm truck release date until closer to maybe 2022. There is the Y, Roadster, and Semi to get into production. A Tesla Truck might feed off lessons learned from S3XY Semis, but I still don't expect anything soonish.
Barklikeadog
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I think they should focus on the current mid-size truck dimensions which allow easier parking and handling. Price comes in around Model 3 territory (just under $50K drive-out) and focus on the 3 largest states (TX, LA, and OK) which buy pickups. Maybe pop up a tent in TX and call it a "dealership"???
dimensions of Model X compare to ford F 150 super crew cab.
Model X Specifications
Length 198.3"
Wheelbase 116.7"
Width 89.4"
With mirrors folded 81.5"
Track Front 65.4", Rear 66.9"
Clearance 5.4" - 8.3"
F150 Supercab 4x4 some numbers are dependent on engine choice
F150 Super crew cab 5.5 ft bed 6.5 ft bed
Wheelbase 145 156.8
Length 231.9 243.7
Height 77.2 77.3
Width (excluding mirrors) 79.9 79.9
GVWR (lbs) 5,271 5,320
towing 13,000 lbs
Model X Specifications
Length 198.3"
Wheelbase 116.7"
Width 89.4"
With mirrors folded 81.5"
Track Front 65.4", Rear 66.9"
Clearance 5.4" - 8.3"
F150 Supercab 4x4 some numbers are dependent on engine choice
F150 Super crew cab 5.5 ft bed 6.5 ft bed
Wheelbase 145 156.8
Length 231.9 243.7
Height 77.2 77.3
Width (excluding mirrors) 79.9 79.9
GVWR (lbs) 5,271 5,320
towing 13,000 lbs
Barklikeadog
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Tesla is getting to the point where it is going to need dealerships. Is it really that evil to mark the car up 1%, charge for service and sell traded-in cars? The entrepreneur opening the dealership is
taking all the risk, paying the employees, keeping the lights on, keeping a stock of parts and has a huge incentive to get cars fixed and out the door. They will also pay the rent and pop up in locations
where they are needed... making many of your owners happier.
I thought about this over the weekend when I drove past the Devon service center. The lot is overflowing with customer cars. They are double parked, parked in the grass, etc. Ive always seen 30-50
cars in there waiting for service, but this was well beyond that. Not good!
Barklikeadog
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Waiting for service. The new cars are parked on the other side of the building except for a few Model 3s on the service side.
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