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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the 2019 Investors' Roundtable

Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by AudubonB, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Unpilot

    Unpilot Sell order in at $3999.99

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    Actually one of the great thing's about this forum is it has so many informative people here.
    I DO learn from my TMC forum addiction.
     
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  2. FreqFlyer

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    Take it for whats it worth, there was another post from someone stating the next gen S would be based on the 3 platform (which is a capable platform) sharing manufacturing efficiencies learned from the 3. A new S/X/Roadster sharing an improved and almost paid for 3 platform, cheaper to manufacture, and higher transaction prices. Since this is a "stock price" thread, I let you do the math.
     
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  3. KarenRei

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    #84403 KarenRei, Sep 12, 2019
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    I'm starting to feel a bit better about the revelation that this is a prototype of a vehicle that won't be out for a year, in one regard: hopefully this will finally tamp down rumours of an imminent refresh. Right? Hopefully...

    I still think that they really need to do a lot more to show off the capabilities of S/X since the Raven upgrade, however. It's become apparent that most peoples' image of what S/X are like is still stuck in the early to mid 2010s.

    ED: Never mind, people are already trying to find loopholes to convince themselves of an imminent refresh so that demand can be properly osbourned. *Sigh*....

    What's wrong with us? :Þ
     
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  4. ggr

    ggr Expert in Dunning-Kruger Effect!

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    At 7:06 PDT I just happened to be watching the yahoo ticker and noticed weird behavior. TSLA had been pretty steady around the mid 247s, but suddenly flashed red with two trades at 246.xx, then instantly back up. There's only one way for that to happen, and it's for someone to write a large sell order with a low limit. So for those who don't believe in short manipulation here's evidence that you're wrong.
     
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  5. Artful Dodger

    Artful Dodger ♫ sniffin' the mornin' cool ♫

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    Elon practically wrote off this possibility yesterday when he tweeted:

    "Yes. To be clear, Plaid powertrain is about a year away from production & applies to S,X & Roadster, but not 3 or Y. Will cost more than our current offerings, but less than competitors."

    6:54 PM - 11 Sep 2019​

    If Roadster and the new S/X were based on a Model 3 platform, then Model 3/Y could receive the "Plaid powertrain". But Elon says they won't get it. Its most likely 3/Y don't have the width to house the dual motor system, and its too much expense to build a 2nd custom solution for what was always intended as the mid-range product.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. StealthP3D

    StealthP3D Active Member

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    The fact that the aero drag acts through the chassis is meaningless in this context. All torque is applied to the road through the tires whether that torque is used for acceleration, overcoming aero drag or climbing a hill. It doesn't matter how the torque is used.

    But your comment on aero downforce is relevant in that the amount of lift or downforce can change the amount of available traction at different speeds.
     
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  7. KarenRei

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    Aero downforce (negative lift) also induces drag, via the L/D ratio.
     
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  8. Nocturnal

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    This new 3 motor model S sounds insane. I'm assuming it will come with upgrades to handling and cooling as well. I'm still betting that GF3 production will be a big surprise upward force on SP as most don't seem to be aware. I have a buddy who is invested in Tesla and he had no idea how close they are to rolling cars out. I think people hear "new factory" and just assume that means years away.
     
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  9. Fact Checking

    Fact Checking Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, you are right, that was bogus - not my day ... :confused:

    Note the very interesting rear spoiler on their Nürburgring prototype:

    [​IMG]

    :D
     
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  10. skivi

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    Shorts are toast :D
     
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  11. StealthP3D

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    Not only that, you must have been in the executive restrooms because there are two rolls of toilet paper and we know from inside leaks that Tesla employees are required to bring their own TP to work because Tesla can't afford it for the workers.
     
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  12. KarenRei

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    That already happened in May. The powertrain is called Raven. Most people appear not to have noticed. :Þ
     
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  13. Pezpunk

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    amazing what some halo car hype can do.
     
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  14. SpaceCash

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    Boom
     
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  15. EVMeister

    EVMeister Lover of Tesla, driver of I-PACE

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    That is the dual meaning of "3" playing you both. :p
     
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  17. FreqFlyer

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    No, the same reason the 3 will not get the adaptive suspension. Product segmenting, there is no need for Plaid mode in a 3 when it has the track option. Want more capability, step up the product line to the S/X/Roadster.
     
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  18. hobbes

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    Crazy price action... Something must have changed yesterday, volume way up. And I don´t think it has anything to do with lap times. Unless it is something we don´t know about, I´d say most likely continued rumours about VW stake in Tesla.
     
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    #84419 204EV, Sep 12, 2019
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    My guess on all the price movement stems from one-word CONFIDENCE!

    New drivetrain/timeline announced with huge ASP/Margin premium ->shown working
    New factory 2nd phase started
    Adding solar to Freemont (shows free capital/belief in the product)
    Musk in good mood(usually means things are working)
    VW specifically saying he doesn't believe Tesla is in any position to go Bankwupt

    **edit: almost forgot starting to do Retrofits of HW3
     
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  20. HG Wells

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    The buyer must be in the break room.
     
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