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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Cosmacelf

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Mar 6, 2013
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Curious though as to why Elon felt like he needed to tweet that out. Why not just wait until tomorrow? He's clearly talking about whatever they show at Battery Day not showing up in the 3 or Y until 2022. Maybe he wants to squash any speculation of 3/Y getting the battery tech but again, why not wait till tomorrow?

Because otherwise the headlines of battery day would be "Telsa admits to battery cell delay". As it is, Elon got the "bad" news out first, so battery day news can be positive.
 

ZachF

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Mar 31, 2016
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Park City, UT
What did people think they were going to announce that starting October 1st the Model 3, Model Y will have new battery tech?

Honestly, he is bascially saying exactly what I was expecting... Plaid/Roadster/CyberTri/etc first, probably performance/LR versions of 3/Y in 2022.

The tech will go to the high end models first and filter down as production ramps. Should be a surprise to no one.
 

bkp_duke

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May 15, 2016
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Elon's tweet should eliminate any concern about the Osborne Effect on sales. Nobody thinking about buying now gives a care about 2022.

I bet they ramp up production faster and beat 2022 by a few months.

Exactly. Under-promise, and over-deliver.



Elon 9 months from now:
"Our Ramp on Roadrunner cell lines has gone much better than predicted and I am happy to announce that these cells have been in large-scale deployment of vehicles delivered for the past 45 days."

Something along those lines.



He's acting like a proper CEO.
 

Knightshade

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Jul 31, 2017
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What did people think they were going to announce that starting October 1st the Model 3, Model Y will have new battery tech?


Yes.

Bunch of threads in the 3 and Y forums of folks holding off purchases for BD announcements.

Many told them that was silly, that at best you'll see new stuff in Plaid S (and maybe X) on BD and almost certainly won't see the new stuff in 3/Y next year either (cept MAYBE Gigaberlin) but hope springs eternal I guess.
 
Jan 19, 2013
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Federal gov't reportedly offering $500M to bring EVs to Ford’s Oakville plant
Ontario government offering $500M to Ford to retool their plant in Oakville (just West of Toronto) to EV manufacturing, if they will take it.
Let's hope this goes better than the $2.5B Ontario government grant that went to GM to keep their Oshawa plant (just East of Toronto) open...they closed within a year of taking the cash.
Governments keeping legacy auto manufacturers alive. Much more to come.
 

Singuy

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Jun 28, 2018
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Exactly. Under-promise, and over-deliver.



Elon 9 months from now:
"Our Ramp on Roadrunner cell lines has gone much better than predicted and I am happy to announce that these cells have been in large-scale deployment of vehicles delivered for the past 45 days."

Something along those lines.



He's acting like a proper CEO.

Meh, wouldn't give him that much credit. The speculation ran this wild because of all the times he said it'll blow our minds and how insane it will be.
 

StarFoxisDown!

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Jan 23, 2019
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Seattle
Because otherwise the headlines of battery day would be "Telsa admits to battery cell delay". As it is, Elon got the "bad" news out first, so battery day news can be positive.

Eh considering Tesla and Elon have never given any sort of timeline for when the new tech would go into vehicles, that's a stretch. Sure the media could try and portray it as that but they would have portrayed it negatively anyways however they can.

And I don't buy the preventing Osborne'ing because we're talking one day here. It wouldn't make any difference in saying the same thing on stage tomorrow.

In the end it makes zero difference to me if he states this in a tweet or on stage. Just peculiar timing if you ask me
 
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MTL_HABS1909

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Feb 29, 2016
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Lol, amazing people are surprised by the contents of that tweet(not here, but apparently investors are uninformed).

A 2022 "serious high production" lines up perfectly with Giga Berlin and Giga Texas finishing construction in mid 2021 and gearing up for mass production by the end of the 2021.

Curious though as to why Elon felt like he needed to tweet that out. Why not just wait until tomorrow? He's clearly talking about whatever they show at Battery Day not showing up in the 3 or Y until 2022. Maybe he wants to squash any speculation of 3/Y getting the battery tech but again, why not wait till tomorrow?

He got it out of the way now to avoid this dumb over reaction after the actual unveil. Very smart move!
 

ZachF

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Mar 31, 2016
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Park City, UT
Exactly. Under-promise, and over-deliver.



Elon 9 months from now:
"Our Ramp on Roadrunner cell lines has gone much better than predicted and I am happy to announce that these cells have been in large-scale deployment of vehicles delivered for the past 45 days."

Something along those lines.



He's acting like a proper CEO.

Tesla is going to have capacity for ~2m vehicles by 2022/23... That's ~200Gwh of batteries needed.
 

vikings123

Active Member
May 27, 2019
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Eh considering Tesla and Elon have never given any sort of timeline for when the new tech would go into vehicles, that's a stretch. Sure the media could try and portray it as that but they would have portrayed it negatively anyways however they can.

And I don't buy the preventing Osborne'ing because we're talking one day here. It wouldn't make any difference in saying the same thing on stage tomorrow.

In the end it makes zero difference to me if he states this in a tweet or on stage. Just peculiar timing if you ask me

Two things:

1. Even one day of orders can make a big difference to EoQ push.
2. I think Elon realizes the expectations were getting really high. So he is doing the right thing as a leader and keeping expectations low. Under promise over deliver.
 

StarFoxisDown!

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Jan 23, 2019
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Seattle
He got it out of the way now to avoid this dumb over reaction after the actual unveil. Very smart move!

I guess from my view, there will be so much information given, that Elon saying on stage that very high production won't be reach until 2022 but that the new batteries would be going into S/X from the pilot line.....would be viewed positively
 

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