Do you think instead of a large volume pick up from now until at least the 5 days before inclusion, we might just see more buy side volume instead making the stock go up without huge volume? As we get close to the inclusion of course volume will pick up significantly.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Runarbt
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It is Warren Buffet - the biggest conservative of them all. Only investing in mature companies, with a dividend.
Huge Tesla/growth/bubble skeptic.
If he turns - this is the turning point for realz! A LOT of people which have been skeptics, will fold.. A LOT of people follow his investmensts, and funds and.. a lot of buying.
This is for me - even bigger than S&P500 - if its WEB hos has taken a stake in Tesla.
A bit unknown yet - but logic.. and so on.
BrownOuttaSpec
Active Member
Not everyone posting here in a millionaire (yet). I am in the same boat as you and didnt get in until this year with an average cost basis in the same range as you. I really wish i could just 'forget' about it and not look at it again for 10 years, but there is just too much cool stuff going on with Tesla news to stay away from taking a peak at the price and buying a few shares each month. HODL!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Nah, it's NKLA and BRK in a stock-only merger. I hear the new ticker symbol will be NARK.
/s
Cheers!
I am confused about the apparent BRK 13F release exemption. “We don’t want to disclose the name of a purchased company because it would cause the stock to rise”.
Confused because - any combination of the below factors here:
1.Well - YES. You’re Berkshire Hathaway. That’s what happens; it’s a consequence of having been successful and big. And you’re going to need to disclose eventually. If it’s going to rise now because you’ve disclosed, it will rise then. Why should investors, who can make informed decisions only if they are, you know, informed, be penalized by your lack of disclosure?
2. If you’re not done purchasing, why is it that you think you’re so special so as to keep your acquisitions under wrap when another firm wouldn’t get such an exemption? Must we the SEC officially show that our rules are only for small investors and not for whales?
3. If it is because BRK is so touchingly concerned about how showing its actions might upset an S&P index entry: S&P as well as the investment firms that use its services to craft their own products make their own rules. Case in point is S&P very recently deliberately bending/twisting/delaying inclusion of a company that indisputably achieved all the criteria for index inclusion, yet was delayed. If S&P can be concerned with market-disruptive effects of adding a name to its index....and thus delays such entry, as well as (possibly) altering the inclusion procedure....then S&P, especially because its primary business is assessing companies’ businesses so deeply that they are the de facto arbiter to their creditworthiness, ought to have added that company before all criteria officially had been met and its markets capitalization had been significantly lower.
Help me out. I’m the new appointee to the SEC and want to make sure I’m acting in the best long-term interests of the investment community, including keeping Wall Street as the investment capital of the world...as there are, in fact, alternative venues.
Confused because - any combination of the below factors here:
1.Well - YES. You’re Berkshire Hathaway. That’s what happens; it’s a consequence of having been successful and big. And you’re going to need to disclose eventually. If it’s going to rise now because you’ve disclosed, it will rise then. Why should investors, who can make informed decisions only if they are, you know, informed, be penalized by your lack of disclosure?
2. If you’re not done purchasing, why is it that you think you’re so special so as to keep your acquisitions under wrap when another firm wouldn’t get such an exemption? Must we the SEC officially show that our rules are only for small investors and not for whales?
3. If it is because BRK is so touchingly concerned about how showing its actions might upset an S&P index entry: S&P as well as the investment firms that use its services to craft their own products make their own rules. Case in point is S&P very recently deliberately bending/twisting/delaying inclusion of a company that indisputably achieved all the criteria for index inclusion, yet was delayed. If S&P can be concerned with market-disruptive effects of adding a name to its index....and thus delays such entry, as well as (possibly) altering the inclusion procedure....then S&P, especially because its primary business is assessing companies’ businesses so deeply that they are the de facto arbiter to their creditworthiness, ought to have added that company before all criteria officially had been met and its markets capitalization had been significantly lower.
Help me out. I’m the new appointee to the SEC and want to make sure I’m acting in the best long-term interests of the investment community, including keeping Wall Street as the investment capital of the world...as there are, in fact, alternative venues.
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StealthP3D
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My guess;
They dont want to just yet.. It will be so insane and out of whack with the market sentiment that they have to wait.
Need SP to go higher, and the rest of the market to accept the trajcetory for ARK to dare release new estimate, and have a slim chance to be taken seriously.
What is ARK's new price target?
+3% a day from now until say Dec. 17 is cool with me. Then add a zero.....
I sold 30 420 Puts for December 18th. I'm fairly confident the SP news will keep us over 420. If we dip below and they all get assigned, I have enough Margin to cover the 3,000 shares, and I would then sell covered calls. In the meantime, the $52k I made will keep my bed nice and fluffy.
Will discuss Panasonic/Equinor/Hydro when I get the chance. Ask me later.
Will discuss S&P when I get the chance. Ask me later.
Busy now.
Will discuss S&P when I get the chance. Ask me later.
Busy now.
I think for many on here 3% is enough to buy another Tesla!!
Dan Detweiler
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I am as bullish on the company as anyone. That said, I have seen the market makers do unbelievable things to keep the stock price where they want it. I am ready for this thing to take off but I would not be surprised by anything the MMs can pull off. They can't do it forever, but in the short term, as they said in Jurassic Park..."Hold on to your butts."MM walking down the SP into open.. how will today turn out?
With Adams upgrade, and one day clsoer to S&P500 - they might have a hard time holding it down for long.
Appreciate any skeptics out there, who think we will go lower in the near/medium term. I just can t see it? But then, I have been wrong a lot! (way to bullish)
Dan
Agreed, just feels like one of those sustained buying days we saw after stock split was announced. I expect us to break the 465 key resistance level at some point today!
Copy Cat. GM to offer insurance based on driving.
GM to offer auto insurance that uses data from connected vehicles to price rates — CNBC
GM to offer auto insurance that uses data from connected vehicles to price rates — CNBC
LN1_Casey
Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus
Honestly, I'm surprised. It's a great idea (for a company like Tesla), but at the same time they're an OEM, and vertical integration is almost a foreign concept. Them branching outside of the car assembling process at all is just shocking to me.
From here until s&p inclusion, the stock is basically on a bid alert.
Pent up demand will absorb most of the sell offs
We get based on trivial issues.
That’s my opinion until it proves otherwise.
One could be even recklessly bullish in this period.
Haha , at your own peril.
Pent up demand will absorb most of the sell offs
We get based on trivial issues.
That’s my opinion until it proves otherwise.
One could be even recklessly bullish in this period.
Haha , at your own peril.
Is there such a thing as a recall on insurance?
Low volume is not a bad thing. An average of 5 million shares a day have to be bought by S&P 500 index funds during each of the 25 trading days until 21 December. If volume stays low - not enough sellers - we will get a lot of green days like today.
gabeincal
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Pfff... Time to replicate the online sales model, 'dealer-less network', and touch-less delivery of Tesla.
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