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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Jackl1956

Active Member
May 11, 2013
1,834
12,216
Los Angeles
For years I have used the “knife fight” metaphor to describe Tesla’s war with the fossil fuel industry, They will fight with all weapons at their disposal — to the bitter end — they will not go quietly into the night.

Nothing regarding Tesla’s technology nor it’s competitive advantage has changed. Not one bit.
 

Knightshade

Well-Known Member
Jul 31, 2017
11,628
15,659
NC
making a lot of money on a stock that went up 1000% in 12 months is not evidence that TA has any predictive power.

i can't believe i actually have to point that out.


FWIW a friend got into TSLA with about $90,000 when it was ~900 a share earlier this year pre-split.

He's down to 11k now.

Some people are just really bad at stocks.
 

Right_Said_Fred

Moderator
May 11, 2012
3,798
31,200
The Netherlands
Everyone should be looking at all of the recent FUD. Look at when it emerged. There was little to no Tesla FUD before the S&P announcement. As the price ran up, the FUD has become rampant.

Why do you think that is? Coincidence? I don't think so. I think big players want in on a better price, and this FUD is shaking the nervous in-for-a-quick-buckers so when the big buying begins, they're starting out at a lower base. It's shocking to me that people will sacrifice big gains over a few weeks (by holding) by instead selling now and increasing the available float.

Does the stock react to FUD at all these weeks? Yes we are down, but not because of any FUD I would think. Do people really trade on news around the company when there is just one thing, the S&P 500, that determines where the price will go? Would they sell the stock because recall, because car crash, because soufflé, when there is this godzilla of an event coming up in 2 weeks time?
 

Sancho

Supporting Member
Feb 18, 2016
646
7,571
Illinois
It's likely that most of the SP runup since the S&P announcement is speculative buying. A lot of that is going to be very weak hands that can, and will, be shaken out. I still think there is going to be a substantial additional runup before this month is over, so I've increased my short term bets this morning, given the reduced price for these bets.

But these are bets, and I'm only using my betting money.
 

lafrisbee

Active Member
Dec 13, 2019
1,685
5,446
Indialantic FL
TA have been pretty good. You guys have to follow The Stocks Channel on YouTube. Guy have been spot on. Predicted a bullish movement after the triangle wedge 3 weeks prior to the break out. He said bearish action if we don't close above 587..and now we see that bearish action. The guy is pretty good. Have been pretty accurately predicting the future.
nope, sorry.
I have found they will say EVERYTHING in one podcast. It will correct and then go up, or will trade flat, or will just take off from here, or is very bearish so expect it to retrace back down to, or expect it to go up then down then back up...ALL IN ONE PODCAST.
And they have consistently been off in the general prediction as to the amount it will be X number of months out.
 

JusRelax

Member
Apr 24, 2019
900
11,519
Los Angeles, CA
FWIW a friend got into TSLA with about $90,000 when it was ~900 a share earlier this year pre-split.

He's down to 11k now.

Some people are just really bad at stocks.

You mean like selling TSLA and NIO to buy into NKLA?

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2daMoon

Mostly Harmless
Nov 25, 2020
677
4,771
Terra
For years I have used the “knife fight” metaphor to describe Tesla’s war with the fossil fuel industry, They will fight with all weapons at their disposal — to the bitter end — they will not go quietly into the night.

Nothing regarding Tesla’s technology nor it’s competitive advantage has changed. Not one bit.

This is something I keep in mind when trying to justify some, if not most, of the FUD. I remember reading some weeks ago how big oil's daily profits provide billions they can spend generating their narrative, tweaking and targeting stock performance in their desired direction, etc.

The people making decisions for them have a fire lit under them to take every opportunity to stretch out their long running energy dominance for as long as possible. Skewing the tidbits that many/most investors (especially retail) are exposed to in their "trusted" media is an art form well established, and one that provides repeatedly good results at a low cost.

Most folks will base decisions upon headlines or other sound-bites without spending much time trying to qualify the veracity of it.
 

ZsoZso

sleeping cat
Apr 24, 2014
1,760
10,422
Mount-island
Posting this for general entertainment purposes to lighten the mood while everyone is so tense about where the SP will go in the next few weeks:

BMW declared most sustainable car maker in the world by Dow Jones

You see, it is all about the metrics chosen. They report BMW car CO2 emissions dropped some 40%, Tesla will NEVER be able to achieve that (since they are 0, so cannot drop anywhere). So if they value the drop, BMW can be the winner. Similar to CR self-driving evaluation, which cares about nagging the driver instead of how the car drives itself.
 

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