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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Criscmt

Member
Feb 18, 2020
217
562
San Francisco
What The Tesla Options Market Is Predicting Regarding S&P Inclusion
Summary:
For 12/11, and primarily 12/18, significantly large bets on the call side, all the way to $900 strikes.
Today, even when stock went down ~7%, the call prices went up, as many were buying them heavily.
Buyers must be expecting a large gamma squeeze or strikes turning ITM.
Not much OI on the puts.
Red or Flat day expected for 12/10.
 

mltv

Member
Apr 9, 2016
192
954
Milpitas,CA
For information on Quantumscape compared to Tesla watch these videos:-


Short answer Quantumscape definitely has some R&D breakthroughs that probably make commercial solid-state batteries viable.

However, Tesla's Battery Day tech is very competitive, Quantumscape now has to clear a much higher bar.

It isn't clear whether Tesla or Quantumscape will have better cheaper batteries in 5-10 years time, it is clear Quantumscape not have a significant impact for at least 5 years.
It is a shame that my previous post of the Quantumscape was removed from this thread from being informed about the competitive landscape that Tesla is in. But whatever. I normally read more than I post. Note I own 0 QS
 

Todd Burch

Voltage makes me tingle.
Nov 3, 2009
7,803
28,506
Smithfield, VA
My thoughts are that this is a big attempt at shaking the tree.

Knowing what we know about the upcoming forced buying, they are trying to shake shares from weak hands.

Think about it. The big boys know what we know. Does it REALLY make sense to unload TSLA now? Now? Why not close to the 21st?

No, this is a bear trap. And it feels coordinated and just as “random” as the big upgrade from Morgan Stanley.

I believe it is wise to hold here. This is the opening act to the main event.
 

Discoducky

P100DL, 2021 M3, 3 CT reservations and counting
Dec 25, 2011
3,387
3,020
Seattle
It is a shame that my previous post of the Quantumscape was removed from this thread from being informed about the competitive landscape that Tesla is in. But whatever. I normally read more than I post. Note I own 0 QS

I want to talk more about QS so let's do it in this thread please All discussion of QuantumScape QS
 

generalenthu

Supporting Member
Jun 10, 2015
1,105
8,568
Vienna, VA
See a bit of acceleration in options bought. Nothing surprising if you have been tracking the jump in IV.

Screenshot from 2020-12-10 02-47-08.png


*To clarify any confusion, reference price is before the market opens except for 12/7 which was after open. In this view it's not that important or relevant in any case.
 

Artful Dodger

"Ducimus, lit"
Aug 9, 2018
8,323
101,968
Canada
After-action Report: Wed, Dec 09, 2020: (Full Day's Trading)

Headline: "Market Tosses Witcher to the Curb"

Traded: $44,263,783,304.11 ($44.26B)
Volume: 71,339,576
VWAP: $620.47

Close: $604.48 / VWAP: 97.33%
TSLA closed BELOW today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain (7:00 A.M.): $600 (+$10)

Mkt Cap: TSLA / TM $572.987B / $196.555B = 291.51%
Note: Yahoo Finance updated TSLA Mkt Cap for shares issued Sep 9th (per 10-Q)
CEO Comp. Status:

TSLA 30-day Closing Avg Market Cap: $497.41B
TSLA 6-mth Closing Avg Market Cap: $357.44B

Mkt Cap req'd for 6th tranche ($350B) reached Mon, Dec 07, 2020
Nota Bene: Operational milestones are req'd for this tranche.
'Short' Report:

FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 50.1% (49th Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)
FINRA Short / Total Volume = 38.8% (45th Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Short Exempt Volume ratio was 0.75% of Short Volume (48th Percentile Rank)​

TSLA - SUMMARY TABLE - 2020-12-09.png


Comment: "SP drops -9.52% narrowly avoiding Uptick Rule" :p

QOTD: @Krugerrand "If you listened to Elon, it really didn’t matter"

View all Lodger's After-Action Reports

Cheers!
 
Sep 7, 2018
32
659
Germany
Short interest decreased in the period from 11/13/2020 (share price $408) to 11/30/2020 (share price $567,50)
The short amount increased massively, due to the rise in share price!
  • Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 46.500.000
  • Float shorted from 6,32% to 6,13%
  • Amount shorted from $19.543.200.000,00 to $26.365.500.000,00
According to Ihor https://twitter.com/ihors3/status/1333490594635767811
  • Shares shorted from 47.900.000 to 48.260.000
  • Float shorted from 6,32% to 6,36%
  • Amount shorted from $19.543.200.000,00to $27.411.680.000,00
My view on Ihor's numbers, I get the feeling he is just guessing.
My view on the numbers, not so many shorts covered in this time period, and the money needed to cover increased big time.

Overview of the short interest from the last few months:

upload_2020-12-10_11-4-58.png
 

Johan

Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Feb 9, 2012
7,470
9,535
Drammen, Norway
Short interest decreased in the period from 11/13/2020 (share price $408) to 11/30/2020 (share price $567,50)
The short amount increased massively, due to the rise in share price!
  • Shares shorted from 47.800.000 to 46.500.000
  • Float shorted from 6,32% to 6,13%
  • Amount shorted from $19.543.200.000,00 to $26.365.500.000,00
According to Ihor https://twitter.com/ihors3/status/1333490594635767811
  • Shares shorted from 47.900.000 to 48.260.000
  • Float shorted from 6,32% to 6,36%
  • Amount shorted from $19.543.200.000,00to $27.411.680.000,00
My view on Ihor's numbers, I get the feeling he is just guessing.
My view on the numbers, not so many shorts covered in this time period, and the money needed to cover increased big time.

Overview of the short interest from the last few months:

View attachment 616243

I'm assuming the first data set you are referring to the official NASDAQ figures for the period? (Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Short Interest).
 
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FS_FRA

Member
Sep 4, 2018
354
2,384
Frankfurt, Germany
*TESLA CAN CONTINUE LOGGING AT GERMAN SITE, COURT RULES: DPA

Key to this is that the court rejected the urgent application by the environmentalists to stop the clearing. The court held the initial grant for tree felling as lawful.

I'm just amazed that NABU (Nature And Biodiversity Conservation Union) and Grüne Liste (environmentalist network) are completely ignoring the reforestation commitments by Tesla. Typical posturing by these lobbyists who should be 100% on the side of Tesla and everything Tesla stands for: accelerating the transition to sustainable transportation.

I hate lobbyists.
 

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