bkp_duke
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18650s for Plaid, possibly 2170s (only if contract with Panasonic allows)
4680s for Plaid+
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18650s for Plaid, possibly 2170s (only if contract with Panasonic allows)
4680s for Plaid+
That plaid is a rebadged performance?
phantasms
Supporting Member
Love the interior. Was hoping for more with the exterior. Still, I'm assuming the Plaid + will look different/more aggressive.
Shame it still wont be out until the end of the year. The plus side is I have zero reason to sell any shares for a while.
Shame it still wont be out until the end of the year. The plus side is I have zero reason to sell any shares for a while.
That implies that Plaid gets 18650 cells in new design, and Plaid+ gets the new structural pack with 4680s. (Also why the Plaid+ isn't going to be available until the end of the year.)
maybe Plaid+ is gonna be bigger body changes for 4680s and get new bodyguards and lights?
ammulder
'98 GS400 -> P3D+
Dancing Lemur
Hoopy Frood
You and me both. The configurator isn't working exactly correctly (no prices shown), but I've tried to order my Plaid X a half dozen times. I guess that's a good sign if it's because of demand crashing the site, as opposed to it not being ready for primetime yet.
Other than the refresh, I'm a little disappointed in the margins (and hence profit). It will be interesting to hear if that's just due to price cuts or something else.
The guidance of >750K is "ok", but if they'd put an actual number on it, it may have a bigger impact. The street doesn't like fuzzy.
And Energy looks to be on track to break out big in '21. Very good results for them.
The Market is so stupid...this report is a knockout.
Tesla energy is going to be so freaking big.
I'm going to buy a plaid+ and have my tri motor cybernotatruck pull it so I have 1000 miles of travel.
Tesla energy is going to be so freaking big.
I'm going to buy a plaid+ and have my tri motor cybernotatruck pull it so I have 1000 miles of travel.
Drumheller
Member
It is a formula car steering wheel, like they use in Formula One. Very cool! As far as turn signals go, the car just knows where you are turning
bkp_duke
Active Member
It is a formula car steering wheel, like they use in Formula One. Very cool! As far as turn signals go, the car just knows where you are turning
The drivers around me keep telling me that turn signals are optional. Perhaps Tesla has simply removed them?
MartinAustin
Active Member
OK some early feedback.
* The Model S+X now have the interior camera for Tesla Network FSD ridesharing.
* The website updates haven't all completed yet. There are some broken and unfinished bits e.g. "potential savings"
* Model S base model and lower Plaid IMO have the "smaller" battery pack size and are shippable now. Lower Plaid version simply has the tri-motor drivetrain for more oomph but it can't draw as much current as the Plaid+ which has more batteries.
* base model S range has only increased by 3 miles over the 409 miles which has been on the Monroney stickers for weeks. I am sure this number will increase over time with "drivetrain software optimisations." Also it indicates that the car may have less kWh than the old 100kWh pack, e.g. 90 or 95kWh.
EDIT: if the lower two trims are continuing with 18650 batteries perhaps that explains the small increase in range to 412 miles
* The steering wheel is controversial. Expect to see... controversy. Especially with "no stalks." I myself will want to test drive it 'cos at the moment I don't believe I will like it!!!
* very subtle changes too the bodywork overall, probably because it was pretty good to start with.
* Rear screen gaming - is this a new software platform as far as developers are concerned?
* Charging speed has not been announced but we can assume 250kW and much more charging at that high rate. I assume Plaid+ with larger battery can go higher, per Cybertruck reveal
* Model X cargo capacity has increased from 88 to 91cu.ft. Doesn't seem like Model S has larger capacity.
* Model S 3rd-row seat option nowhere to be seen... did they punt for some future time? There is supposed to be more room available
* The Model S+X now have the interior camera for Tesla Network FSD ridesharing.
* The website updates haven't all completed yet. There are some broken and unfinished bits e.g. "potential savings"
* Model S base model and lower Plaid IMO have the "smaller" battery pack size and are shippable now. Lower Plaid version simply has the tri-motor drivetrain for more oomph but it can't draw as much current as the Plaid+ which has more batteries.
* base model S range has only increased by 3 miles over the 409 miles which has been on the Monroney stickers for weeks. I am sure this number will increase over time with "drivetrain software optimisations." Also it indicates that the car may have less kWh than the old 100kWh pack, e.g. 90 or 95kWh.
EDIT: if the lower two trims are continuing with 18650 batteries perhaps that explains the small increase in range to 412 miles
* The steering wheel is controversial. Expect to see... controversy. Especially with "no stalks." I myself will want to test drive it 'cos at the moment I don't believe I will like it!!!
* very subtle changes too the bodywork overall, probably because it was pretty good to start with.
* Rear screen gaming - is this a new software platform as far as developers are concerned?
* Charging speed has not been announced but we can assume 250kW and much more charging at that high rate. I assume Plaid+ with larger battery can go higher, per Cybertruck reveal
* Model X cargo capacity has increased from 88 to 91cu.ft. Doesn't seem like Model S has larger capacity.
* Model S 3rd-row seat option nowhere to be seen... did they punt for some future time? There is supposed to be more room available
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I'm starting to think the Plaid+ is a signal that the Roadster is going to be held back for a while longer.
Also, with the steering yoke... I'm guessing that's marking the S as a racing / intense driving machine, and the insurance premiums will be commensurate.
Plaid is 0-60 in 1.2 s. Plaid+ is 0 - 60 in 0s.
Yes indeed, but 0-60 appears to be 0s only for car occupants, for observers outside the car, it travels at the speed of light.
Alphacrux
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In case anyone missed it, Tesla just refreshed the Model S and Model X
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In case anyone missed it, Tesla just refreshed the Model S and Model X
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It is supercar economics. There will be buyers.
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