Lucky you, got them at 585.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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you are a real discount shopper!
Because of step 2 I added 15% more TSLA to my portfolio this morning
Tes La Ferrari
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Picked up some more at $561 today.
The way I look at it - these are a steal compared to when I started buying this current dip in the early 800's a few weeks back.
The way I look at it - these are a steal compared to when I started buying this current dip in the early 800's a few weeks back.
Eugene Ash
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Another way to look at it is that TSLA is usually 2-3x the amplitude of Nasdaq direction. What's considered a correction is about 20%, multiply that by 3. Here we are a weathered bunch, unfazed by anything less than 60% draw-down. We know, the ride back up is going to be ludicrous.
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Ameliorate
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Hmm, well I don't have any more money to throw at this thing - I went into some margin to buy the dip. On the chance we dip a bit further may I ask what was the trick to stave off a margin call for a bit? Was it buying short duration far OTM puts and how much margin does each option offset? TIA
Is Tesla sell off done yet? My question is it the bottom? Thanks
Elon continues to destroy Waymo.
In response to Waymo's limited geographical reach :
In response to Waymo's limited geographical reach :
gene
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If we knew the answer we'd all be billionaires.
It is a Possibility.
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I get the interest rate issue, but the long end was around this level last year.
more importantly, with re-opening aren’t folks going to get out more and spend more and maybe drive more... and replace ICE cars with Teslas?
more importantly, with re-opening aren’t folks going to get out more and spend more and maybe drive more... and replace ICE cars with Teslas?
I learned from the 2000 crash that the big stock brokers (TDAmeritrade, Schwab, Fidelity....) always know the market direction because they have all sell and buy orders. they communicate with each others. The after hours traders have friends in those stock brokers, so they also know.
Eugene Ash
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TL;DR on Sandy's interview with Zen Matoshi of Faraday Future:
1. Ones from backgrounds that faced adversity are more innovative, inventive, driven.
1.1. Sandy has an excellent illustration of corporate bureaucracy that crushes and uses vital lifelines as shim under a shaky tables (Starts at 6:45)
1.2 Managing politics, promotions, obligations kills the innovation programs, and the boards are the ones killing (e.g. EV1)
2. Legacy automakers are riddled with debt obligations, including to unions to the tune of multiples of their current valuations
2.1. They can't even walk away from their real estate, since they have to do reclamation, and downsizing costs
2.2. Such downsizing can happen really quickly, and Sandy witnessed that in the 80's, where Japanese automakers ate into big 3's what seemed like overnight
2.3. There are 600 native EV startups/companies
2.3.1. Xi directed to consolidate, Sandy expects to 150
2.3.2. They are trained by western specialists, so these are not going to be Yugos with panel gaps.
3. Faraday future looks like a new version of Maybach inside
3.1. They're looking forward to autonomous future
3.1.2. doesn't seem like they're working on that, so we may see a waymo-like atrocity on top, or whenever nvidia/mobileye come up with smth)
3.2.3. Their software is a version of Android
3.3.4. They are proud of their migrating profile that applies the settings from one car to another, and also from one seat within a car to another.
3.3.5. My conclusion - if they've got that figured out, with OTA, VW should just buy them, or keep building out the windows phone of cars : )
Full interview here
1. Ones from backgrounds that faced adversity are more innovative, inventive, driven.
1.1. Sandy has an excellent illustration of corporate bureaucracy that crushes and uses vital lifelines as shim under a shaky tables (Starts at 6:45)
1.2 Managing politics, promotions, obligations kills the innovation programs, and the boards are the ones killing (e.g. EV1)
2. Legacy automakers are riddled with debt obligations, including to unions to the tune of multiples of their current valuations
2.1. They can't even walk away from their real estate, since they have to do reclamation, and downsizing costs
2.2. Such downsizing can happen really quickly, and Sandy witnessed that in the 80's, where Japanese automakers ate into big 3's what seemed like overnight
2.3. There are 600 native EV startups/companies
2.3.1. Xi directed to consolidate, Sandy expects to 150
2.3.2. They are trained by western specialists, so these are not going to be Yugos with panel gaps.
3. Faraday future looks like a new version of Maybach inside
3.1. They're looking forward to autonomous future
3.1.2. doesn't seem like they're working on that, so we may see a waymo-like atrocity on top, or whenever nvidia/mobileye come up with smth)
3.2.3. Their software is a version of Android
3.3.4. They are proud of their migrating profile that applies the settings from one car to another, and also from one seat within a car to another.
3.3.5. My conclusion - if they've got that figured out, with OTA, VW should just buy them, or keep building out the windows phone of cars : )
Full interview here
Would you tell me what are the clues that Tesla is close/at its bottom? I learned from the 2000 crash that the big stock brokers (TDAmeritrade, Schwab, Fidelity....) always know the market direction because they have all sell and buy orders. They communicate with each others. The after hours traders have friends in those stock brokers, so they also know.
Eugene Ash
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I agree that a dozen tailwinds are coming this year, and FSD should be the biggest.
FUDsters on Seeking Alpha and Yahoo News are telling each other that Tesla is losing market share and therefore doomed. EV competition from "real automakers" has arrived, they say, and is eating Tesla's lunch. These halfwits can't seem to grasp that the EV market is expanding, and the lunch being eaten is ICE sales, not Tesla's.
But fully functional FSD will instantly destroy all FUD about competition for years. Cars that can drive themselves will make all others obsolete, and make investors start pricing in Tesla Network. Before that happens is likely the last opportunity to buy TSLA in the triple digits.
When will it happen? Elon says this year, and maybe well before year-end.
FUDsters on Seeking Alpha and Yahoo News are telling each other that Tesla is losing market share and therefore doomed. EV competition from "real automakers" has arrived, they say, and is eating Tesla's lunch. These halfwits can't seem to grasp that the EV market is expanding, and the lunch being eaten is ICE sales, not Tesla's.
But fully functional FSD will instantly destroy all FUD about competition for years. Cars that can drive themselves will make all others obsolete, and make investors start pricing in Tesla Network. Before that happens is likely the last opportunity to buy TSLA in the triple digits.
When will it happen? Elon says this year, and maybe well before year-end.
GrandEnigma
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This new forum software is very GenX friendly. Lol ICQ, AIM and Yahoo.
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The clue is the stock price stops going down.
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