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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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IMHO, another big whale is unloading TSLA. We will find out later who it was from the reports. Such consistent big moves going on for weeks are hard to explain by FUD effect or shorting.
asburgers
Sell order in at $8008.5
This is pretty oversold...right?
Especially when official short interest is down. Reminds me of 1H 2019.
Sure, agreed, but a 10% gain is a 10% gain from any given number. If good numbers sudenly come out, the buyers don’t buy @ 1000 they buy at the current price. At that point is it not the Volume that is the true mover of how far the run will go? I understand your logic and agree, but it’s not always so cut & dry.
Mb I’m wrong, but the way I see it we’re going to have to reclaim our ATH first & the lower we are in SP, regardless of your or mine entry price, that will take a certain volume. I don’t doubt the speeds fast or slow in which that can happen, I just know it has to happen first.
Step one: global domination
Knightshade
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The TA folks are building effigys of you to burn as we speak...
I laughed way too hard at this.
Sell in May and Go away. Would love to hear @Curt Renz perspective on the recent price action
when you don’t rally on record production and deliveries, a hard end point,
the near term motivation to buy diminishes.
now the stock seems to move mostly in sympathy with the negative external events.
moreover, the Bitcoin adventure is now being used to cast doubts on the main business.
at this point the negative narrative can only be reversed with strong deliveries and production.
the near term motivation to buy diminishes.
now the stock seems to move mostly in sympathy with the negative external events.
moreover, the Bitcoin adventure is now being used to cast doubts on the main business.
at this point the negative narrative can only be reversed with strong deliveries and production.
First test Y casting at giga TEXAS according to Joe.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Yeah hey geez wot, it's like there's this whole other way to short
shares without reporting them...
... or running out of shares to borrow causing the cost of borrowing shares to increase.
Nothing to see, move along
Don TLR
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I watched Randy’s video of the Gigapress cycling and the robots above going through the motions as well, shown at 26 minutes in. Went to check the price, 572, yikes, had to buy a few more HODL shares. Hard to pass up these sale prices knowing what’s coming down the road.
How's that thing go, "buy when others are scared" or something like that?
This is pasted from my brokerage's newsfeed. The time stamp could not really be ET, but must be UT.
CFRA MAINTAINS HOLD OPINION ON SHARES OF TESLA, INC.
3:24 pm ET May 13, 2021 (CFRA) PrintWe lower our 12-month price target by $170 to $600 based on a '22 P/E of 85.7x. Our adjusted EPS estimates remain $4.60 for '21 and $7.00 for '22. Last night, TSLA announced it would stop accepting bitcoin for car purchases, citing the energy and carbon-intensive bitcoin mining process. In reality, we believe very few vehicle purchases took place using bitcoin given the significant capital gains tax liability such transactions could incur. We think TSLA's foray into cryptocurrency has both weighed on the stock's valuation and muddled the story, raising a plethora of questions regarding its capital allocation strategy, such as why the return on investment on bitcoin might outweigh that of a new vehicle factory. We lower our target multiple, believing a lower valuation is justified, as the announcement contributes to a 10%+ bitcoin selloff and impacts the value of TSLA's $1.33B of bitcoin holdings at the end of Q1. Additionally, we continue to have significant concerns regarding rising EV competition.
On the plus side, I think there's a ton of buying pressure getting set up as about ~7.5 million shares equivalent puts have to be bought. Some of them will be rolled or going to be delivered, but that's pretty strong buying pressure in about 10 trading hours.
I definitely agree with one thing. This BTC nonsense muddled the story. Introduced volatility and risk for absolutely zero reason, upsetting tree huggers and fomo traders in the process.
Why would a whale be offloading at these prices. To me that would be more concerning than FUD.
(Edit) Unless it’s a solvency issue. But even then. Doesn’t make sense to drop the bulk of the stake. Gifford was selling in the mid 7’s afaik. Which makes sense if they thought they could get a lower entry price. But for a whale to offload; they would need to see a possibility for a much lower entry price.
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“Buy the rumor”
The rumor is STILL that AP causes crashes and Berlin has been delayed by 6 months. AKA buy Puts is what the average joe is thinking and what the market is telling them to do.
Not smart, but seamingly effective.
That is “The narrative”.
Winding the spring......
Someday soon......
My guess for next positive catalyst other than P&D blowout is that Q2 ER Tesla reports FSD deferred revenues.
The rumor is STILL that AP causes crashes and Berlin has been delayed by 6 months. AKA buy Puts is what the average joe is thinking and what the market is telling them to do.
Not smart, but seamingly effective.
That is “The narrative”.
Winding the spring......
Someday soon......
My guess for next positive catalyst other than P&D blowout is that Q2 ER Tesla reports FSD deferred revenues.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Lol, they lowered their price tgt by 22% but left EPS unchanged for this year and next? So are they actually admitting that their SP tgt is NOT based on P/E ratios, since earnings haven't changed in their estimate, but the price tgt has changed? So what is their tgt SP actually based on then, good will and feelings? Capri pants?
Perhaps they have the story wrong, and Tesla isn't just an auto manufacturer? But they want to value it like one, and smak them down if they get out of that lane. Priceless! Further telling how they don't think environmental concerns are worthy of a mention, it's ONLY about the Benjamins to them.
Lol, bitcoin goes through 10% swings nearly every week. Enough with the FUD! If bitcoin went to ZERO, Telsa would be out $1.3B Max, but this analyst now recommends the value of the company is $164B less because of a potential bitcoin move which he FEARS might happen? That's 120x the value for drop in bitcoin holdings vs drop in market cap. How is this joker even taken seriously at the country club?
... ooh, and we have CONCERNS! Tell us (oh mighty Wall St. know-it-nothing) is the COMPETITION coming? Finally? Or is it still by 2025 for sure.
What drivel. I'm surprised these people can make a living as analysts. Oh wait...
Cheers!
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BTC is a distraction. But Elon has always been the storied CEO. People certainly did not wish for his Pedo tweet ad certainly that was a distraction. Beside, when BTC group did not appreciate Elon and lend hand in shore up TSLA then, why would we care that they turn again TSLA now?
In fact he's generated so much distraction along the way. We have to take him as a whole.
What I try to focus on is the execution, and S/X refresh is the sticking point for me. He even gave a speech at the beginning of Feb during Rogan show indicating the delivery is within the same month.
Now it could also be that due to chip shortage or whatever they decided to shelf it to pretty up the accounting book, but none of it is communicated. I think he is distracted. SpaceX certainly is more fun than TSLA to him, I guess.
In fact he's generated so much distraction along the way. We have to take him as a whole.
What I try to focus on is the execution, and S/X refresh is the sticking point for me. He even gave a speech at the beginning of Feb during Rogan show indicating the delivery is within the same month.
Now it could also be that due to chip shortage or whatever they decided to shelf it to pretty up the accounting book, but none of it is communicated. I think he is distracted. SpaceX certainly is more fun than TSLA to him, I guess.
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