Exactly.
There is a huge difference in outsourcing a factory in a neighboring country for lower salaries (Ford) and installing factories in strategic places in different continents not to moving parts all over the world (Tesla).
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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There is a huge difference in outsourcing a factory in a neighboring country for lower salaries (Ford) and installing factories in strategic places in different continents not to moving parts all over the world (Tesla).
willow_hiller
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Not quite the peak for us, but after about a week of discussions I finally convinced my wife that it would be a good idea to take some of the money we were saving to pay off our car loan early and invest it in TSLA instead (3.6% APR with a end date in 2025; I'm guessing TSLA will out-perform the interest rate). Bought more on Friday, May 7. Being down 15% in 1 week has not been a great way of convincing the wife it was a good idea.
Krugerrand
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Rather than wishing people would change into who you want them to be, accept people for who they are and change your perspective or approach.
If I was bothered by this about Elon, which I’m not for the record, I’d simply add 5 years and 50 weeks to ever timeline he puts out henceforth. Just doing the mental exercise honestly, changes your brain chemistry. Do it consistently and it becomes a new habit that you don’t even have to give a second thought to. In turn, you’ll no longer feel the associated negative thoughts when a timeline is missed.
Yes, it really does work. Then apply it to all other situations and people in life that cause you angst.
Krugerrand
Meow
To be fair we’re going to see situations in from FSD company vehicles, including Teslas, that otherwise seem so simple to navigate until all the technical stuff is ironed out. I mean, Teslas used to see traffic cones in the strangest places and thought fast food company signs were stop signs.
To also be fair, because the guy on my other shoulder wants his turn to speak,
hope Waymo goes down in a ball of flames with their ridiculous approach to FSD.
Mike Smith
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Morgan Stanley Says Buy Tesla (TSLA) on Weakness, Reiterates Overweight
Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas reiterated an Overweight rating and $900.00 price target on Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) after a sharp sequential decline in April deliveries and a Reuters article...
No, he never said that they would be manufactured in China for global consumption. (At least not that I can remember or find.) Designed/engineered? Yes.
"They" have been doing a masterful job during this heavily manipulated decline at capping at round numbers, and then hammering the stock to precipitous declines. They did it just now at $579. Capped, and then TSLA dropped to $575 in seconds. This is just not normal price action, and the SEC should at least be looking into what is happening (my guess would be, among other things, naked shorting - but, this is just a guess).
A big head-fake this morning as $TSLA underperforms the rest of the EV sector in the opening minutes, defying the pre-market
Hell, if I didn't know better, I reckon you could trade this daily and male a lot of money, no?
Just a reminder to those that keep posting along the line of this going to be like 5 year trading gap again......it can’t. It’s impossible as long as the company executes.
They were able to keep it range bound from 2014-2019 because Tesla was posting losses and had no earnings. All Tesla has to do is execute and Wall St will be forced to push this higher. The absolute most the stock could ever stay in the 600’s is Q2 of 2022’s Q2 earnings, which would put the stocks P/E under 30. Even if the stock were to go back to 800-900, the P/E would only go up to 50. So while it may suck right now, people really should think about that before putting comments out about multi year trading ranges.
They were able to keep it range bound from 2014-2019 because Tesla was posting losses and had no earnings. All Tesla has to do is execute and Wall St will be forced to push this higher. The absolute most the stock could ever stay in the 600’s is Q2 of 2022’s Q2 earnings, which would put the stocks P/E under 30. Even if the stock were to go back to 800-900, the P/E would only go up to 50. So while it may suck right now, people really should think about that before putting comments out about multi year trading ranges.
Maybe this will make you feel better... this was me "buying the dip" after we hit $900 in January. The "Price paid" column is highlighted. I'm hodling.
corduroy
Active Member
It used to be easier when there was a reliable MMD. Lately its just an all day D.
DanCar
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Musk said something similar for Model 2 in Europe. Designed, engineered and manufactured in Europe.
Until whales like Baillie Gifford decide to buy back all their shares and squeeze the shorts, we are just holding onto this ride with our fingernails while the short sellers control the narrative. I just don't know how low they want to see the SP before they jump back in. I'm hoping it isn't the 400s....
The manipulation is super easy on these lighter volume mornings as it does not take much to cap and then bring TSLA down quickly (as was just done at $577). In the meantime, NIO is up 5.5%.
I don't think players like Baillie Gifford are ever going to buy it back. They did support Tesla through it's darkest days, so more power to them, but their structure and risk controls prevent them from taking massive stakes, just like ARK has a cap, even as they have super high conviction.
The stock will simply become more widely held, and that's a good thing. It reduces the volatility, and brings in a more diverse base of investors.
I keep thinking of all the deliveries Tesla is making and no doubt a fraction of all the new car buyers are going to be interested enough to put some money in the stock once they experience it. And these are generally well heeled buyers.
asburgers
Sell order in at $8008.5
I have massively out-sized unrealized loses on TSLA on most of my accounts. This is for the "don't f-up your kids' future" account.
A very nice read on growth investing from James Anderson of Scottish Mortgage / Baillie Gifford, taking well deserved shots at Warren Buffett.
Chicken soup during these times.
www.marketwatch.com
Chicken soup during these times.
Early Tesla backer and top fund manager attacks Warren Buffett's strategy. Here's his investing advice.
James Anderson says to forget value investing and be ready for stomach-churning swings in stock prices.
www.marketwatch.com
OK, I give up. Peak despair reached. (see my avatar)
Please, wake me up when sanity returns to the market!
Please, wake me up when sanity returns to the market!
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