I don't think either of those had happened yet...He ignored it when they made the initial investment.
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I don't think either of those had happened yet...He ignored it when they made the initial investment.
We all make decisions based on the limited set of data we have.I saw an E-Tron and its owners in real life just now.
After passing my initial judgements, I thought about being in their shoes.
I realized,
E-Tron owners are real people too, you know.
That's likely one explanation for the decline of TSLA shares in recent months. Many retail TSLA shareholders and meme traders are fans of Elon. When he started tweeting about cryptocurrencies, many of them must have sold some or all of their TSLA to buy cryptocurrencies. Meanwhile, many institutional investors may have become unnerved by cryptocurrency tweets from Elon.The only reason I started buying Bitcoin was because of Elon’s support of it...
I second the motion.Retirement for me most likely equals any-kind of stock split. I'm in full support; you may proceed!
I like this guy.@Lycanthrope
the main point was making was, not just 84 launches, (50 satellites this time), not just another almost 700 more by September, not just how they are going over 1,150 at 1 minute after launch, climbing “like a homesick angel”, the almost continuous video feed looking back from launch to landing, “screaming in from 8,000 to soft landing, offset in case of error and hitting the bullseye”, being able to read “of course i still love you” (yay, Iain M Banks) on the deck of the drone ship looking down during powered descent, decelerating using atmospheric cushion,
Its how _casually_ they can do all these things and make the difficult look routine.
This is a demonstration of great power and expertise perhaps finally on the knee of the exponential curve, just in SpaceX & Starlink & SN15,
And the vehicles, and the batteries and the “virtually zero marginal cost potential of the energy” (sunlight) many use.
additionally
We are also on the cusp of communication with alien, non human species.
The monkey that plays pong with its implanted =>neuralink<= electrodes.
remember Stephen Hawking who talked with a type of vocoder?
Could you train a vocoder with a neuralink?
dolphins, whales, cats&dogs living together, and chatting in a mutually understandable language , “a great uplift”
This is _not_ being a “fanboy” or “fangurll”, it’s looking at technology from a viewpoint of camera like perspective, seeing where it’s been and having a fairly good idea where it’s going,
(thanks to all the Science Fiction authors i have read, traveled with, discussed ideas with, all the “what if this, then that”)
around when we _finally_ got a shared party line telephone with 3 other families back then, who liked to listen to your calls, 64 years ago, chopping wood to heat the house or freeze, hand cranking a tractor to start it, from building a TV if we wanted one (we did and glowing leaky tubes made nice ‘nite lights’ with exploding capacitors occasionally and rubber bands to hold the tubes tight) to now, to hanging a monster “TV/computer” on the wall to watch launches, tapping on an iPad, manufacturing all and excess of my own power that can fuel my vehicle, watching things not only 1/2 way round the planet in “lightspeed delayed real time” but in orbit too.
(what will be the downside when many are neuralinked together and we don’t want to be 2-3 seconds behind, waves of mutual thoughts cascading around the planet)
mental ants stuck on a blue marble at the bottom of a gravity well, straining to break free and “go walkabout”
(and love to the bot scrapers who frequent TMC)
Would love to see Elon's focus return to Tesla and their progress in accelerating the world's transition to sustainable energy. The Bitcoin drama is a completely unnecessary distraction and the Doge stuff isn't funny anymore.
In general, rather than another 5 for 1 stock split, can we collectively support the idea of Tesla doing a 2 for 1 split on a yearly basis to routinely clear out the barn ?
General Motors has announced a $40 million investment for its Pontiac Stamping Plant in Michigan. The new investment will go towards facility renovations and the installation of new fabrication machinery for future EV production.
The new machinery includes “Flex Fab” sheet metal fabrication tech, which will provide “repeatable, custom and precise stamping.” Critically, the new Flex Fab tech requires little to no additional tooling investments when creating new stampings, thus reducing overall costs with regard to low-volume applications.
What I “know” is Tesla bought a fungible commodity (Bitcoin) instead of holding cash. The purpose was an expected retention of capital and to experiment with the liquidity of the commodity. As an aside, Tesla allowed small purchases to be made with Bitcoin. It became obvious the energy cost for those small purchases was exorbitant and dirty, so it was curtailed. For such an insignificant change, there should be no material impact on TSLA or Bitcoin.Would love to see Elon's focus return to Tesla and their progress in accelerating the world's transition to sustainable energy. The Bitcoin drama is a completely unnecessary distraction and the Doge stuff isn't funny anymore.
It would be a mistake to assume Elon's focus ever left Tesla based on looking at how much the media focused on Tesla's Bitcoin activity or on what the share price is doing. Elon can multi-task in his sleep more competently than most people can multi-task when they are wide awake. He thrives on having multiple irons in the fire.
I find it odd how a low share price causes so much pain and angst amongst those who claim to be long-term Tesla investors. In early 2019 when I started accumulating Tesla shares I was surprised how negative so many long-term shareholders were on Tesla when, in my opinion, Tesla was functioning like a well-oiled machine, doing amazing things with rapidly improving fundamentals and there were strong signs of an impending break-out of the share price. Things were looking so bright I was buying as much as I could afford and even selling other stocks that were market darlings (like MSFT) to buy more, yet the mood on this forum was decidedly dour, even after the share price had bottomed and was on a slow, somewhat erratic rise before the big breakout. The forum negativity made no sense to me but I didn't let it deter me.
We might have a ways to go to get to that point again or it might have already happened, I don't know. I just know the macro trend will be down until it's not and so I wait patiently for the market to do what markets do. Markets love to be erratic and over-react. I figure the macro trend is still down because Tesla should lead the recovery. This means it might take a while. Tesla's Bitcoin activity is not even relevant except to the extent that the puppet master can distract the detractors long enough to complete his slight of hand before they figure out what he's really up to.
Observers such as ourselves cannot always see what is really going on so, without strong evidence that something has changed, I'm going to stick to an old, reliable, and well-established rule of thumb: Don't bet against Elon Musk!
Their ads and signalling indicate they are going to have a lot of different EVs. They are going to try to fill in all the niches that Tesla does not.Interesting article. Bold by me....
Article is here
Seems to me that if you are gearing up for an EV future properly, you would expect that to become high volume quickly?
My TSLA investment is greater than my crypto investments. Though having both, I am a bit as annoyed as I am sure Cathie Wood is as well.
While short positions have to be covered eventually, no one says it has to be done at a loss. Bitcoiners can definitely short at opportune times to accelerate losses and trigger stops. They can also cap and suppress prices so bullish call buyers go OTM.
How effective will they be at this? Hopefully not very.
My point is it's better to have friends instead of enemies. Point is I don't see much value getting into unnecessary wars with probable negative benefits.
Bitcoin investors buy cars too. And many would have bought Plaid S or Roadsters.
The only reason I started buying Bitcoin was because of Elon’s support of it. Is this going to affect the Bitcoin price long term? Should I sell at a loss and wait for Tesla Coin to come out? Always something to worry about.
The price can be volatile, they knew that when buying, they should have known about carbon emissions from transactions and mining when buying.
However, Tesla will not be getting involved with digital currency, because Musk says it’s not a good use of the company’s resources. Plus, creating or mining cryptocurrency takes a lot of computer power, and therefore electricity.
“I think one of the downsides of crypto is that it, computationally, it is like quite energy intensive,” Musk said. “It is very energy intensive to create the incremental bitcoin at this point.”
A stock split isn't going to get us to retirement, it's autonomous driving we need to look forward to.I second the motion.
I guess that depends on how close you are to retirement. Stock split would seem to do the trick overnight. Autonomous will take months/years to play out and significantly improve TSLA priceA stock split isn't going to get us to retirement, it's autonomous driving we need to look forward to.