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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Singuy

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For anyone wondering the option size Elon is excersing before the yea end.

TLDR, about 12.3 million shares need to be sold or borrowed to pay his taxes.

 

AudubonB

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I told someone I would provide him a link to a good walkthrough of the Grünheide plant. Is there a consensus as to what might have been the best of the bunch?
 
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Featsbeyond50

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IANAL and think this union credit is legally dubious. That said, can someone who is a lawyer, or has actual legal background comment on this one way or the other. There are a couple of them here (that I don't remember the user names of) and it would be great if some kind soul who remembers their handles could bring this to their attention.
I would weigh in on this but I limit myself to pretending to be a doctor on the internet.
 

StarFoxisDown!

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For anyone wondering the option size Elon is excersing before the yea end.

TLDR, about 12.3 million shares need to be sold or borrowed to pay his taxes.

You have to assume he’ll take on debt. The rise in the value of SpaceX alone would allow him to take out more than enough debt against his space x shares
 

jhm

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IANAL and think this union credit is legally dubious. That said, can someone who is a lawyer, or has actual legal background comment on this one way or the other. There are a couple of them here (that I don't remember the user names of) and it would be great if some kind soul who remembers their handles could bring this to their attention.
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AudubonB

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I keep waiting for the Labor Union discussion descent down the rabbit hole to die out. Any more of it and I or another will indeed take action. The persistent need by certain members to Have The Last Word certainly is tiresome for everyone else.
 

JRP3

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The 8-K listing the final shareholder voting results is now out.


There were 9 voting items of which shareholders voted against the board's recommendations on these three items:

  • Proposal 2 was a management proposal to adopt amendments to Tesla’s certificate of incorporation to reduce director terms to two years. This proposal was not approved because it did not constitute at least 66 2/3% of the total outstanding shares of Tesla’s common stock.
  • Proposal 5 was a non-binding advisory stockholder proposal regarding reduction of director terms to one year. This stockholder proposal was approved.
  • Proposal 6 was a non-binding advisory stockholder proposal regarding additional reporting on diversity and inclusion efforts. This stockholder proposal was approved.
Does "non-binding" mean it can be ignored?
 

AudubonB

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In effect yes, it can be ignored. The best a succesful non-binding shareholder proposal can be considered is as a demonstration of the Sense of Shareholders' Attitudes. More accurately, it is such a sense among those shareholders who voted. As is, of course, every shareholder (or political, etc.) vote.
 

Words of HABIT

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Casual observations:

Spent 3 hours travelling today across Greater Toronto 400 series highways today. The number of driving infractions I saw were in the hundreds and I'm not even talking speeding. Examples include drivers not signaling, cutting off other drivers, following too closely, agressive maneuvers, sudden lane changes, racing. Witnessed four near collisions today. IMHO Tesla FSD is far superior than the average driver, now. Full stop.

Reading TMC gives us an unfair advantage. It is like copying off the really smart kid during a final exam, or having a copy of the test to study before writing it. We all know the outcome of TSLA. I'm starting to feel a little guilty. NOT.

I came to TMC for information on Tesla. I found my Tesla family instead.
 
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SPadival

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Casual observations:

Spent 3 hours travelling today across Greater Toronto 400 series highways today. The number of driving infractions I saw were in the hundreds and I'm not even talking speeding. Examples include drivers not signaling, cutting off other drivers, following too closely, agressive maneuvers, sudden lane changes, racing. Witnessed four near collisions today. IMHO Tesla FSD is far superior than the average driver, now. Full stop.

Reading TMC gives us an unfair advantage. It is like copying off the really smart kid during a final exam, or having a copy of the test to study before writing it. We all know the outcome of TSLA. I'm starting to feel a little guilty. NOT.

I came to TMC for information on Tesla. I found a Tesla family instead.
Go to reddit group called IdiotsInCars. FSD looks like Schumacher in comparison 😂

 

CaliBear1

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Chenkers

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I told someone I would provide him a link to a good walkthrough of the Grünheide plant. Is there a consensus as to what might have been the best of the bunch?
It's hard to say what is the best walkthrough. There are several in German, a couple in English and some that are deep dives into aspects. Probably the most accessible starting point in English is Gali's walkthrough:


If they don't suit Gali's style, there are some others are linked below:
Darren Yoong (English):
GF4 (Mostly German):
WolfPack Berlin (German): Pt1
Pt2
@avoigt also has a couple but focussed on specific sections: Giga Berlin County Fair Part 1 Entrance
 

FS_FRA

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More geography lessons: Kotor is in Montenegro. Macedonia would be a rather poor choice of a gateway indeed, considering its landlocked status....
You are of course right. Considering I’ve been to Kotor in Montenegro on vacation 2 years ago, this is pretty embarrassing for me 😂

For simplicity, I think we should all agree that Koper is it, regardless.
 

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