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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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The clutch looks more like a pair of gears engaging. Synchronization clould be done easily by accelerating the drive to same speed to pair them smoothly. I'm sure they know the position of each gear down to the degree and can do the job without any damage.
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JusRelax
Active Member
1.7kWh/mile? Methinks that's very impressive!
"Current efficiency is 1.7kWh/mile, but there is a clear path to 1.6, possibly 1.5"
"Current efficiency is 1.7kWh/mile, but there is a clear path to 1.6, possibly 1.5"
Krugerrand
Meow
Yeah. Should have handed each guy a stack of keycards and let them play Match The Keycard to the right truck in the parking lot.
You concluded there must be only two trucks because two executives showed for the event and got one keycard each? Come on.
Keep in mind that Tesla is a member of CharIN. Most major public utilities, electrical equipment manufacturers, and BEV manufacturers are members. This makes every CharIN standard (they issue standards, do not make anything at all). As a result they end out with modified standards in different areas. CCS is typical, with different NA and EU cores, for example.
There are long exhaustive and arcane discussions on TMC and elsewhere.
FWIW, no matter the obvious merits adopting NCAS will not happen.
AC induction motors are less efficient (and less controllable) than the Plaid style PM on the semi. Even if the rotors were free spinning, you would still have the drag due to gears and lubrication. Plus the parasitic losses of the thermal and lubrication subsystems.
Also provides a limp mode option (torque allowing) if either of the two boost motors fail.
Semi thread:
Tesla Semi
I wonder what was the average slope of that route.
Wow so someone with a Volvo semi commented that 27mph is their speed on a big hill like this which makes this clip the most impressive.
Good read
www.cohenmilstein.com
Summary:
Northwest Biotherapeutics (~$1bn market cap) filed a securities lawsuit alleging that market makers Canaccord Genuity LLC, Citadel Securities LLC, G1 Execution Services LLC, GTS Securities LLC, Instinet LLC, Lime Trading Corp., Susquehanna International Group LLP, Virtu Americas LLC, deliberately engaged in repeated manipulative spoofing of NWBO’s stock from December 5, 2017 – August 1, 2022, causing NWBO to issue more than 49 million shares at artificially depressed prices.
"Despite the string of encouraging news about its lead product, NWBO’s share price has not followed suit. Quite the opposite actually—and that is not by chance. Rather, because of Defendants’ spoofing, NWBO’s share price has dropped."
Spoofing is a form of market manipulation that, in this case, was accomplished by placing “Baiting Orders” in the Limit Order Book2 or Inter-Dealer Quotation System that are not intended to be executed and have no legitimate economic purpose. The purpose of these Baiting Orders is to create a false illusion of market interest that will generate a response from other market participants that the spoofers can use to their advantage. For example, if the goal of the spoofing scheme is to drive the price down, the spoofer enters Baiting Orders to sell, to create an appearance of a downward trending market, which will then bait other market participants into entering their own sell orders to minimize or avoid suffering losses. Shortly thereafter, the spoofer will place orders to buy, or “Executing Purchases,” which are intended to be executed against the other market participants’ sell orders at the lower artificial prices prompted by the false Baiting Orders to sell. Immediately after placing these Executing Purchases to buy, the spoofer then cancels all of the Baiting Orders to sell, which completes the profitable spoofing cycle.
Defendants engaged in spoofing on 395 of 1,171—or nearly 34%—of the trading days during the Relevant Period.
Relevance to TSLA:
Observers here have regularly pointed out spoofing of TSLA, and at least two of the market makers indicted have also been TSLA market makers. We're also of course painfully aware of long periods of declining/stagnating stock price despite an endless string of encouraging results. Perhaps Tesla or people on TMC could initiate a similar lawsuit.
Northwest Biotherapeutics, Inc. v. Canaccord Genuity LLC, et al.
Northwest Biotherapeutics, Inc. v. Canaccord Genuity LLC, et al. (S.D.N.Y.): Cohen Milstein is leading this securities litigation against market makers Canaccord Genuity LLC, Citadel Securities LLC…
www.cohenmilstein.com
Summary:
Northwest Biotherapeutics (~$1bn market cap) filed a securities lawsuit alleging that market makers Canaccord Genuity LLC, Citadel Securities LLC, G1 Execution Services LLC, GTS Securities LLC, Instinet LLC, Lime Trading Corp., Susquehanna International Group LLP, Virtu Americas LLC, deliberately engaged in repeated manipulative spoofing of NWBO’s stock from December 5, 2017 – August 1, 2022, causing NWBO to issue more than 49 million shares at artificially depressed prices.
"Despite the string of encouraging news about its lead product, NWBO’s share price has not followed suit. Quite the opposite actually—and that is not by chance. Rather, because of Defendants’ spoofing, NWBO’s share price has dropped."
Spoofing is a form of market manipulation that, in this case, was accomplished by placing “Baiting Orders” in the Limit Order Book2 or Inter-Dealer Quotation System that are not intended to be executed and have no legitimate economic purpose. The purpose of these Baiting Orders is to create a false illusion of market interest that will generate a response from other market participants that the spoofers can use to their advantage. For example, if the goal of the spoofing scheme is to drive the price down, the spoofer enters Baiting Orders to sell, to create an appearance of a downward trending market, which will then bait other market participants into entering their own sell orders to minimize or avoid suffering losses. Shortly thereafter, the spoofer will place orders to buy, or “Executing Purchases,” which are intended to be executed against the other market participants’ sell orders at the lower artificial prices prompted by the false Baiting Orders to sell. Immediately after placing these Executing Purchases to buy, the spoofer then cancels all of the Baiting Orders to sell, which completes the profitable spoofing cycle.
Defendants engaged in spoofing on 395 of 1,171—or nearly 34%—of the trading days during the Relevant Period.
Relevance to TSLA:
Observers here have regularly pointed out spoofing of TSLA, and at least two of the market makers indicted have also been TSLA market makers. We're also of course painfully aware of long periods of declining/stagnating stock price despite an endless string of encouraging results. Perhaps Tesla or people on TMC could initiate a similar lawsuit.
If you are referring to the 500 mile route, a listener to Rob Maurers Tesla Daily live stream worked out the overall elevation difference for route was about 13ft. So despite the ups and downs, no real advantage due to height difference.
For the uphill overtaking shot I believe they said it was a 6 degree gradient. Not sure on the overall average.
The fact that hedge funds/MMs have access to order types such as "CANCEL IF TOUCHED" says everything. No one who has a bona fide intention to actually trade needs this order type.Good read
Northwest Biotherapeutics, Inc. v. Canaccord Genuity LLC, et al.
Northwest Biotherapeutics, Inc. v. Canaccord Genuity LLC, et al. (S.D.N.Y.): Cohen Milstein is leading this securities litigation against market makers Canaccord Genuity LLC, Citadel Securities LLC…
Summary:
Northwest Biotherapeutics (~$1bn market cap) filed a securities lawsuit alleging that market makers Canaccord Genuity LLC, Citadel Securities LLC, G1 Execution Services LLC, GTS Securities LLC, Instinet LLC, Lime Trading Corp., Susquehanna International Group LLP, Virtu Americas LLC, deliberately engaged in repeated manipulative spoofing of NWBO’s stock from December 5, 2017 – August 1, 2022, causing NWBO to issue more than 49 million shares at artificially depressed prices.
"Despite the string of encouraging news about its lead product, NWBO’s share price has not followed suit. Quite the opposite actually—and that is not by chance. Rather, because of Defendants’ spoofing, NWBO’s share price has dropped."
Spoofing is a form of market manipulation that, in this case, was accomplished by placing “Baiting Orders” in the Limit Order Book2 or Inter-Dealer Quotation System that are not intended to be executed and have no legitimate economic purpose. The purpose of these Baiting Orders is to create a false illusion of market interest that will generate a response from other market participants that the spoofers can use to their advantage. For example, if the goal of the spoofing scheme is to drive the price down, the spoofer enters Baiting Orders to sell, to create an appearance of a downward trending market, which will then bait other market participants into entering their own sell orders to minimize or avoid suffering losses. Shortly thereafter, the spoofer will place orders to buy, or “Executing Purchases,” which are intended to be executed against the other market participants’ sell orders at the lower artificial prices prompted by the false Baiting Orders to sell. Immediately after placing these Executing Purchases to buy, the spoofer then cancels all of the Baiting Orders to sell, which completes the profitable spoofing cycle.
Defendants engaged in spoofing on 395 of 1,171—or nearly 34%—of the trading days during the Relevant Period.
Relevance to TSLA:
Observers here have regularly pointed out spoofing of TSLA, and at least two of the market makers indicted have also been TSLA market makers. We're also of course painfully aware of long periods of declining/stagnating stock price despite an endless string of encouraging results. Perhaps Tesla or people on TMC could initiate a similar lawsuit.
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
But confusing Great Britain with all of continental Europe
Tesla CEO Elon Musk kicks off first Semi truck deliveries
Tesla originally showed off the Semi design in Dec. 2017.www.cnbc.com
No major attacks by Lora here. Refreshing.
."One major difference between Tesla’s Class 8 offering and other heavy-duty trucks is the location of the steering wheel and the driver’s seat. Rather than using the left side (or right side in Europe), Tesla designed the Semi with the steering wheel in the center of the cab with touchscreens positioned on both sides of the driver."
All things being equal (same up slope as down slope) it would be a net negative as you can't recapture all the energy used going up slope.
But not as negative as just using friction brakes and assuming all things are equal. As Unpilot says, it can depend on the up-grade vs the down-grade. And for round trips, it can depend on both ways loaded or one way empty (the earthmover example discussed a few days ago). So it really can be different than passenger cars which have only small differences in load.
There are already a few super cut of yesterday‘s event. This one is excellently edited to cover all information and cut out the lulls.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
The chart in the Semi presentation showing battery level over the trip also had elevation shown.
Krugerrand
Meow
Hmm - yeah, adding a question mark to a statement doesn’t make it a question; it makes it the wrong punctuation.
Alas, I can’t recall the specifics from the rumors and speculation at this point (on pretty much anything going on on the planet nowadays), but I’d imagine there’s some sort of contract between Tesla and PepsiCo related to how many trucks by a certain date. The ‘guinea pig’ for the product isn’t going to want to play too loose or too fast; they’re still conventional at heart so a risk like the Semi has to have some parameters to make them a bit more comfortable from a business standpoint.
Given the delay of the Semi, for various reasons (battery supply, more important fish to fry at any given moment, Jerome’s departure and a host of things we don’t know about), I’d imagine we’re cutting deadlines close, but all I could find was that Pepsi ordered 100 originally and that they announced in October that they’d begin to receive them in December. I could not find any mention by Pepsi that all 100 would be delivered before year end.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Wasn't the "100 by year end" a statement made by a board member in the Elon compensation trial?
(question mark included for questionable purposes)
100 was based on Robyn Delhoms disposition from a few week back ? , . ‘
It was stated that that was like the aspiration? , !Similar threads
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