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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Discussion in 'TSLA Investor Discussions' started by AudubonB, Dec 28, 2018.

  1. Unpilot

    Unpilot Sell order in at $5999.99

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    "Imagine a gathering of your own direct reports. Not your entire team or your entire company, but just the people who have no other boss between you and them. How many of them would there be? Whatever the number, I'm betting it's a lot lower than 29."
    — Yes, quick reminder for the writer: you are not Elon Musk, and neither are the people you're writing for.

    "According to The Information, Mary Barra, the CEO of General Motors, has 12 direct reports. Ford CEO James Hackett has nine."
    — Some people are smarter and have broader knowledge than others.
    Edit: And some companies have more diverse and substantial innovation going on than GM & Ford.

    (Also: annoying that site doesn't put the article date in an obvious location, is from Oct 2018.)
     
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    No joke. This was a surprise of the project.
     
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    well, the important thing is the SEC accusation had nothing to do with whether guidance would be met -- it was purely about whether he had released new guidance, as opposed to reiterating old guidance, which is a charge that was proven false.

    But yes, the two posts above are correct -- when Elon made the "500k" tweet, he was talking about rate, not total made, and furthermore, the plan later changed -- 10k per week from Fremont by year's end is no longer the goal. It seems that getting that increased production (and more) out of a Chinese gigafactory instead proved the path of least resistance. Companies are allowed to change their plans -- there's nothing illegal about that, either.
     
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    Again we had a bear attack and TMC went down at that time or was that just for me ?
     
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    Going by recent BMW exec's comments, can only assume BMW is not securing a large supply of batteries for it — since no one wants EVs.
     
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    I have gotten a few " Bad Gateway" messages
     
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    Even that 10k/wk was supposed to be 7k in Fremont and 3k in China. So, we can say the plan has not changed, the timeline may have shifted some - depending on when China starts production in volume.
     
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    It was definitely down for a few minutes, but to be honest i think it's a stretch to attribute it to nefarious anti-Tesla hackers operating in conjunction with organized wall street price manipulators. Not really seeing much motive there. I'd chalk it up to coincidence.
     
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    Sure, I completely agree. Murdock's news-rags have always been full of vindictive crap when they're not cramming monetarist dogma down people's throats.
     
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    All of Cloudflare went down for a while. Not TMC specific. Had to firefight a bit at work when our website was producing 502 errors...
     
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    Thanks for your always helpful write up Papafox! Does anyone have any pointers on where to go to get started investing? This is the second time I have missed great opportunities to buy Tesla and as a noob I would appreciate any tips.
     
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    This is the quote I was referring to.

     
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    Cloudflare had an issue of some kind. TMC was not the only site affected.
     
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    You say great opportunity to buy Tesla. My wife and I bought TSLA yesterday at 229 having never owned a share of stock before in our lives. Buying for the long-term, but it's always disheartening to see it creep downward immediately after purchase!

    The best advice we've received is to take your first investment as a learning opportunity, and not invest more than you're able to lose.
     
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    Can you clarify what you're asking? Originally, you were asking about the "SEC mess". I think we adequately covered why the SEC had no case. Yes, guidance eventually changed, because Tesla decided not to push for 7k vehicles per week from Fremont, and focus on China instead, which changed the timelines a bit. (Still has no bearing on the SEC case, though, since that case was about whether Elon was giving new, previously unmentioned guidance with his 500k tweet, a charge that is disproven by the image you posted.)
     
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    Still.. a "threat" 3.5 years after Model 3 hit the streets (2.5 years to wait still).. Will almost be time for a refresh anyhow. :p
     
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