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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

sparcs

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Nov 8, 2018
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At $0.58 a gallon difference, people already notice! Our last car took Premium and with a 21-gallon tank, I was painfully aware of the $0.30-$0.40 difference. And yes, I'm a multi-millionaire. Most of us didn't get to where we are without noticing these kinds of things. :cool:
but they just pay it anyways since it's the cost of buying a "premium" vehicle. Or they use regular instead on a premium recommended/required vehicle.

Here's what might help along with that 14 cent premium gas increase. Gas Taxes Rise in a Dozen States, Including an Historic Increase in Illinois

I don't know the quality of the information in that article, but it claims that 12 states just recently raised taxes. Some at minor rates, but states like Illinois rose by 19 cents.

so in illinois premium owners might notice as it's adding up. Maybe fuel taxes and some of these other things could help Tesla as they start to add up. Plus, i've seen other states talking about raising fuel taxes as well.

Edit: On the flip side, some state governments are greedy and charging more for EV registrations than gas vehicles. See Illinois as a new example. Not sure how all this will shake out and benefit Tesla if that's a new trend and they scheme to tax EVs at higher and higher rates.
 
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UrsS

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Mar 9, 2017
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ditto...the fundamental reason to invest and how you value a stock (DDM).... i am really surprised on how many disagrees and dislikes i got for suggesting TSLA dividends in the future... this is the TSLA investment thread :D

There are those who invest for personal gain (Capitalists) and then there are those who invest in a better future for themselves and others. Musk is among the latter: Tesla's Mission: "Accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy." So, I guess as long as the world is not 100% on sustainable energy there will be no dividends from Tesla.
 

FrankSG

Active Member
Jun 27, 2019
1,608
21,264
Singapore
Why must the stock price always go down after I buy some? And I bet it'll be even higher next paycheck too!

In 5-10 years, this 10$ difference isn't going to matter. Having bought at 240ish instead of 360 or 400+ though, will make quite a difference. So better to simply be thankful for this already discounted price that was given to us :)
 

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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Jul 12, 2012
10,228
7,322
Maine
but they just pay it anyways since it's the cost of buying a "premium" vehicle. Or they use regular instead on a premium recommended/required vehicle.

Here's what might help along with that 14 cent premium gas increase. Gas Taxes Rise in a Dozen States, Including an Historic Increase in Illinois

I don't know the quality of the information in that article, but it claims that 12 states just recently raised taxes. Some at minor rates, but states like Illinois rose by 19 cents.

so in illinois premium owners might notice as it's adding up. Maybe fuel taxes and some of these other things could help Tesla as they start to add up. Plus, i've seen other states talking about raising fuel taxes as well.

Edit: On the flip side, some state governments are greedy and charging more for EV registrations than gas vehicles. See Illinois as a new example. Not sure how all this will shake out and benefit Tesla if that's a new trend and they scheme to tax EVs at higher and higher rates.

$0.19/gal x 15000mi/yr / 25mpg = $114/yr

That's really going to get those premium car buyers thinking while they're sitting in the Starbucks drive-thru.
 

cbrigante2

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Aug 14, 2018
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North Aurora, Il
but they just pay it anyways since it's the cost of buying a "premium" vehicle. Or they use regular instead on a premium recommended/required vehicle.

Here's what might help along with that 14 cent premium gas increase. Gas Taxes Rise in a Dozen States, Including an Historic Increase in Illinois

I don't know the quality of the information in that article, but it claims that 12 states just recently raised taxes. Some at minor rates, but states like Illinois rose by 19 cents.

so in illinois premium owners might notice as it's adding up. Maybe fuel taxes and some of these other things could help Tesla as they start to add up. Plus, i've seen other states talking about raising fuel taxes as well.

Edit: On the flip side, some state governments are greedy and charging more for EV registrations than gas vehicles. See Illinois as a new example. Not sure how all this will shake out and benefit Tesla if that's a new trend and they scheme to tax EVs at higher and higher rates.
Yes Illinois might be a little unique as they are using the increase to pay for state highway maintenance. They jacked the EV registration much higher but we are somewhat thankful they didn't bump it to a proposed $1000/year. This increase on gas tax was a long time coming and add to it that we've already got additional taxes on that gas, and it adds up to a pretty costly average price.
 

CorneliusXX

Active Member
Jun 19, 2015
2,033
15,924
London
Let’s be real. Most of us will be dead by the time Elon Musk’s Tesla stops being able to come up with ways to spend money on humanity. Seriously.

Many more GFs to go.
Bajillion more energy and solar projects.
Many believe FSD is a hundred years out, so lots more R&D and hardware investment there.
Long way to go before every parking spot in the world has a V22 Supercharger that some think needs to happen, never mind just a reasonable continued expansion of the SuperCharger Network.
1,000 mile battery pack to achieve for the off-roaders and Alaskians.
Semi, Roadster2.0, pickup, normal pickup, heavy duty pickup, off road pickup, minivan, minibus, mini, station wagon, El Camino, and 526 other vehicle types people seem to think Tesla has to make.

I’m not even trying to be imaginative and I know there’s not even a remote chance I’ll be alive to see a dividend - and yes, I plan on seeing 2030 and beyond. So get the dividends are coming idea right out of your pretty little heads.

Edit: How could I have forgotten, a SC every 50 miles plus one next door to @neroden.

Boats, planes, agricultural equipment, lawn mowers, chainsaws, submarines, moon habitats, etc.
 

AudubonB

One can NOT induce accuracy with precision!
Mar 24, 2013
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Moderator:

Far too many of you are emplacing posts that are nothing but a link to an article.

It must have been too long since the last alert: DO NOT DO IT.


If there is something of substance in an article, summarize it and add your commentary as to why it’s important. Don’t be lazy.
 

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