Well, 1,000 shares of Ford would cost ~$1,020, and 1,000 shares of TSLA....( more than I can afford)Just for fun, and since it is Sunday - if Tesla and Ford announce a partnership tonight, will it change your investment strategy for TSLA in anyway? Would you buy F?
And the software
And autopilot standard
And the FSD
And the production cost efficiency
And large scale battery pack production
But other than that, what has tesla ever done for us ?
caraoke and Spotify and Netflix - fine
Just for fun, and since it is Sunday - if Tesla and Ford announce a partnership tonight, will it change your investment strategy for TSLA in anyway? Would you buy F?
Gasoline and diesel pickup trucks with average mileage put around ~30-50 tons of CO₂ in the atmosphere, every single year. They are also very popular globally - so they are a prime target for emissions reduction.
Reducing those emissions to ... near zero sure is worth something to environmentalists that otherwise don't like SUVs and pickup trucks, right?
Help me understand the arguments green/environmentalists have with a zero-emission vehicle that can be charged by renewable energy. Is it simply a demand to return to an 18th-century-technology level?
Nobody has ever used me as evidence of sanity.Hey, I thought it was downright psychotic until @dww12 added some very good points also. There is also one more piece of strange evidence now associated with my post that adds some fuel to the speculation - but I won't mention that because if I did, it would remove any claim of sanity I might still make.
pickup trucks and suv/crossovers are the key to the US market. If Tesla gets those right, then there will be an even bigger shift towards EVs and other Tesla Energy products here in the US.Basically I think that many will see the cybrtrck as a solution for nobody's problem.
Hey, I thought it was downright psychotic until @dww12 added some very good points also. There is also one more piece of strange evidence now associated with my post that adds some fuel to the speculation - but I won't mention that because if I did, it would remove any claim of sanity I might still make.
There is also one more piece of strange evidence now associated with my post that adds some fuel to the speculation - but I won't mention that because if I did, it would remove any claim of sanity I might still make.
Basically I think that many will see the cybrtrck as a solution for nobody's problem.
No one here knows that pickups sell millions both globally and in the US. You don't see them here (in Italy) and if you see them they are bought by posers, like the Hummers few years ago.
So if Tesla does a super-truck, many will look at it and think that is a overengineered behemoth for alpha-males with compensation problems, and @avoigt already replied about misconceptions and disinformation about batteries and EVs. Greens here advocate for public transport, much less for EVs.
This is a similar problem to the fact that when Elon/Tesla said it would have produced a "mass-market" electric car.
This is true for US (the average price is 35k, TMC taught me) but here in Europe is far less (ie. source).
Here in Italy a Model 3 SR+ costs 49.500 € for the base model. So still a premium car like BMW/Audi/Mercedes.
Basically, all other EVs cost less than M3.
So I hope you start understanding the different perspective people can have here towards Tesla.
I personally think that Tesla will be seen in a different light from the "green" side after the Semi, and also after Tesla Energy actually ramps up and sells a bunch of Megapacks projects also here.
Those to me are real game changers, and there are no arguments against that I can think of.
Semi will be big in terms of PR.
Where is Carsonight with the reveal on increased cell production, where are the supplier order volume increases, etc.
Blaming Europeans as a collective - or even European regulators to an extent - for supporting diesels is a bit problematic, considering that they were lied to (although they do have slightly superior CO2 emissions performance compared to non-hybrid gasoline vehicles (not hybrids though, and not EVs), although some automakers have caught up most of that gap with much lower-cost technology than diesels need). Then organizations figured out that the criteria pollutant emissions performance was a lie, and diesel support is evaporating. (I will blame European regulators for some massive loopholes in NEDC that the automakers successfully lobbied for, but then, those loopholes weren't just used for diesels, they were also used for gasoline cars, and I'd be wholly unsurprised if some of the legacy automakers' EVs have using them as well. In any case, due to Dieselgate bringing attention to those loopholes, WLTP+RDE attempts to close them.)Europeans are a special bunch. They’ll complain about the environmental impact of a large EV truck, but they’ve had no issue being the biggest supporters of diesel cars/trucks. You can’t make this stuff up....
I think I understand quite fine... my first cell phone was a Motorola Brick, and I've owned a plethora of models up to my current iPhone X. I drove my folk's 1961 Plymouth Valiant (replete with push-button transmission), up through my current Model S. I've lived through the changes of interfaces of both phone and cars, as many here have,
By and large the items you describe are simply non-issues for the majority. Yes, I occasionally mis-type on my iPhone virtual keyboard. But I also inadvertently press the wrong key on my Blackberry. The iPhone is still a vastly more capable device. Likewise I occasionally don't hit the temp control squarely enough on my Model S to register. But then again I've accidentally hit the control stalk on my Toyota and triggered the wipers when I didn't mean too either. The S is still car in another league.
My point is that for the vast majority of folks, these aren't showstoppers. And as the newer generations compose more and more of the car buying market, the objection will be less and less. For those that remain, there's the Jitterbug, and it's numerous automotive equivalents.
As for updates: I have a 2013 Model S. Original MCU 1 design. After 6-1/2 years of owning it I just got Spotify. I expect next update to add departure-based charge scheduling. Of course support will stop at some point... I can't get some replacement parts for older cars either. But until then, what's this nonsense about not getting useful updates?