I'm sure they will still supply it, but it won't be like today. I see it more like insuring an expensive bike. Perhaps a decent financial decision, but not legally required like today.
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I'm sure they will still supply it, but it won't be like today. I see it more like insuring an expensive bike. Perhaps a decent financial decision, but not legally required like today.
Artful Dodger
"Ducimus, lit"
After-action Report: 2020-01-22
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ggr
Expert in Dunning-Kruger Effect!
Indeed interesting. -$2.16 is the sum of the EPS for Q1-Q3, so to get to -$0.12 would need EPS for Q4 to be $2.04. This is somewhat above what Yahoo says is consensus of $1.72. (Note that this is only an approximate calculation, since you can't really add EPSs that way. But I think it's closer than that gap.)
kbeckley
Supporting Member
I have not seen this posted, but lordy it is easy to miss something on this forum. I believe this is new, hopefully not proven wrong. Seems Tesla recently added WIFi to their home wall chargers. I have been looking for something like this to happen as it begins to pave the way for your Tesla to become a power wall or ultimately enable vehicle to grid (V2G). Tesla has been quiet on V2G but folks looking out into the future of energy infrastructure adore the idea. Within a few more years a fraction of the fleet plugged in at the right time, all willing to give up a fraction of their total charge will destroy the so-called duck curve. It also allows a lot higher % of variable sources (wind & solar) on the production side. Wildly disruptive to energy markets.
Artful Dodger
"Ducimus, lit"
Retail traders participated in less than 43.4% of all trades today. This was mostly Market Makers (non-FINRA reporting entities).
My mom came to me by herself wanting to invest mid-November before Cybertruck. She got 3 shares @ $350, which was some really good timing.
She recently started reading Elon's biography by Ashley Vance, and has become more excited so she picked up another 2 shares at open yesterday.
She said she never knew that Elon went through such hardships and that he was such a hard worker. She has immense respect for him now.
Long thread updating the status on the Tripp case:
Nafnlaus on Twitter
There's a wealth of screenshots from the court docs in there... some of it incredibly telling. Such as Tripp repeatedly talking about how Linette has a personal vendetta against Musk and was going around canvasing GF workers for anyone who would leak to her.
More interesting, however, is that while he repeatedly denied getting paid by Lopez, he kept talking with other employees about payments for leaking damaging info about Tesla (the number $50k crops up multiple times). Perhaps some of the most interesting parts:
In particular, these excerpts:
But, even more interesting:
Stop and ask yourself:
WHO ARE THE "AWESOME PEOPLE" GIVING TRIPP MONEY FOR HURTING TESLA?
...
That's a question that SERIOUSLY needs some answers.
There's a reason Tesla sued Tripp for $167 million dollars, and it's not that they think he's good for the cash. When this case is over, ruling in hand, they're very clearly going to move straight on from him to the "awesome people" doling out cash for anything that can hurt Tesla.
Nafnlaus on Twitter
There's a wealth of screenshots from the court docs in there... some of it incredibly telling. Such as Tripp repeatedly talking about how Linette has a personal vendetta against Musk and was going around canvasing GF workers for anyone who would leak to her.
More interesting, however, is that while he repeatedly denied getting paid by Lopez, he kept talking with other employees about payments for leaking damaging info about Tesla (the number $50k crops up multiple times). Perhaps some of the most interesting parts:
In particular, these excerpts:
But, even more interesting:
Stop and ask yourself:
WHO ARE THE "AWESOME PEOPLE" GIVING TRIPP MONEY FOR HURTING TESLA?
...
That's a question that SERIOUSLY needs some answers.
There's a reason Tesla sued Tripp for $167 million dollars, and it's not that they think he's good for the cash. When this case is over, ruling in hand, they're very clearly going to move straight on from him to the "awesome people" doling out cash for anything that can hurt Tesla.
Would not surprise me at all if a fair amount of trading was new shorts selling to covering shorts.
uselesslogin
Supporting Member
Don’t know who saw my other post on the fee rate at IB but it is back down to where it was. No idea why it spiked.
anthonyj
Stonks
There is absolutely no way that retail traders moved around $10b of volume in one stock. No way
Long thread updating the status on the Tripp case:
Nafnlaus on Twitter
There's a wealth of screenshots from the court docs in there... some of it incredibly telling. Such as Tripp repeatedly talking about how Linette has a personal vendetta against Musk and was going around canvasing GF workers for anyone who would leak to her.
More interesting, however, is that while he repeatedly denied getting paid by Lopez, he kept talking with other employees about payments for leaking damaging info about Tesla (the number $50k crops up multiple times). Perhaps some of the most interesting parts:
In particular, these excerpts:
But, even more interesting:
Stop and ask yourself:
WHO ARE THE "AWESOME PEOPLE" GIVING TRIPP MONEY FOR HURTING TESLA?
...
That's a question that SERIOUSLY needs some answers.
There's a reason Tesla sued Tripp for $167 million dollars, and it's not that they think he's good for the cash. When this case is over, ruling in hand, they're very clearly going to move straight on from him to the "awesome people" doling out cash for anything that can hurt Tesla.
Wow I was wondering what if anything had gone on with this case. Fascinating twitter read. Thanks so much.
Carl Raymond
Active Member
V2G has been dismissed for fear of battery degradation. This might go away with Maxwell tech and longer lasting cells (more cycles).
But you can get most of the grid benefit with zero risk, just by letting the charger choose the rate of charge, based on price signals. Charge the car really slow (or wait) when demand is high and charge fast when demand is low. V2GLite.
pz1975
Supporting Member
Thanks for the summary Karen.Long thread updating the status on the Tripp case:
Nafnlaus on Twitter
There's a wealth of screenshots from the court docs in there... some of it incredibly telling. Such as Tripp repeatedly talking about how Linette has a personal vendetta against Musk and was going around canvasing GF workers for anyone who would leak to her.
More interesting, however, is that while he repeatedly denied getting paid by Lopez, he kept talking with other employees about payments for leaking damaging info about Tesla (the number $50k crops up multiple times). Perhaps some of the most interesting parts:
In particular, these excerpts:
But, even more interesting:
Stop and ask yourself:
WHO ARE THE "AWESOME PEOPLE" GIVING TRIPP MONEY FOR HURTING TESLA?
...
That's a question that SERIOUSLY needs some answers.
There's a reason Tesla sued Tripp for $167 million dollars, and it's not that they think he's good for the cash. When this case is over, ruling in hand, they're very clearly going to move straight on from him to the "awesome people" doling out cash for anything that can hurt Tesla.
Remember Tripp had a gofundme campaign to pay his legal bills with a goal of $500,000? He made it to just over $22,000. After reading all that, I wonder if his donors still feel good about their contribution to the poor oppressed little guy being abused by the rich and powerful.
Tripp vs Tesla: Help fund the fight organized by Martin Tripp
Some folks say Cybertruck looks ridiculous. I say it looks as functional as a tank. But its looks will be largely irrelevant to two very large groups of buyers:
1) Truck buyers who use their vehicle for work. (Nothing else on the market approaches Cybertruck's announced functionality.)
2) Truck buyers who want their vehicle to be tough, not merely claim it in Super Bowl commercials. (Nothing else is literally bulletproof.)
Years ago when Anton Walhman was predicting Chevy Bolt would kill Tesla, I made a different prediction. I said Model 3 will do to Chevy Bolt what Model S did to Cadillac ELR. That seems to be happening.
Chevy Bolt sales decline for second straight year, a warning for Tesla competitors - Electrek
So I'll make another prediction now: Cybertruck will do to Ford F-Series what Model 3 did to Chevy Bolt.
I think (and Sandy Munro agrees) that Tesla will begin with 50K/yr Cybertrucks build at Fremont. Once demand is demonstrated (it'll be clear after a year), then they'll build a dedicated facility for 600k/yr,
After Sandy's appearance on Autoline Afterhours, Elon tweeted this:
"Munro’s analysis of Tesla [Cybertuck] engineering is accurate, both pro & con. I think he will appreciate some elements of the Model Y body design."
1:55 PM - 17 Jan 2020
Tesla will does not need another Wall St. cap raise to build Cybertruck because they'll do it in stages. They'll barely even require those low-cost non-recourse loans from regional banks (but should take them anyway to assure local buy-in).
It's all unfolding exactly as laid out in the secret Secret Master Plan.
[Insert Mr. Burns Meme of choice here]
Cheers!
Is Space in Fremont 3D or 4D?
ammulder
'98 GS400 -> P3D+
I was going to liken that to the b-movie Human Centipede, but then I thought better of it.
I will say that I’m impressed with that talking head Tim Drymouth who is still shorting Tesla. Such conviction is admirable.
generalenthu
Supporting Member
No need to invent new acronyms when there's already one. What you describe is called demand response or DR in the energy geeks circle. It could come from ACs, water heaters (electric), etc.
DR isgoing to be an important capability when the vast majority of the grid is powered by renewables, which are generally variable. Of course batteries are the other missing piece of the puzzle.
larmor
Active Member
If they can hold true to the price of the cyber truck with that range and towing/load capacity then the Ford F series is going to be in trouble. Lots of people here in the south lake/Westlake area of Texas have pick up trucks and actually not a lot of them are hauling stuff. But the size of the trucks and the capability of the trucks are important both of which cybertruck meets the criteria and exceeds in the functional utility.
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