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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

Thomas Edison

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My EKG
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EV forever

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Saudi Arabia fund dumped nearly all of its Tesla shares before the surge — CNBC

Saudi Arabia fund dumped nearly all of its Tesla shares in the fourth quarter before the rally

Missed out big time on current gains this year



The Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund now holds just about 39,000 shares of the stock after selling 99.5% of its holding.

The fund held more than 8.2 million shares by the end of the third quarter of 2019, which would have been worth more than $7 billion at Tuesday's price.

Before the latest sale, the sovereign wealth fund had dramatically cut its net exposure to Tesla stock in early 2019 after CEO Elon Musk settled fraud charges with the SEC over the claim to take his company private.
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Mich

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Float is only 142 million shares.
@Fact Checking do you have any insights on how many shares are actually traded today counting one share only once if traded multiple times? I know this data is not available but I would like to have some kind of indication how much the actual liquid float is (my share are part of the 142m float but not available to trade on days like today). How much of this 60m share is just HF algos trading a couple of shared with themselves?
 

uselesslogin

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The fee rate at IB for shorting is the higher than it was before earnings. There is a good chance this means there are more shorts in at this higher price. And the volume is over 60 million now. Insane. You can’t have a VW style short squeeze of the shorts haven’t covered.
 

Beltsbear

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azaz

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The fee rate at IB for shorting is the higher than it was before earnings. There is a good chance this means there are more shorts in at this higher price. And the volume is over 60 million now. Insane. You can’t have a VW style short squeeze of the shorts haven’t covered.

yep wether or not a squeeze actually happens idk, but up until now price action hasn't been due to shorts covering. that much seems to be clear based on available date
 

Right_Said_Fred

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So your selling, while Baron is advising of future 4- and 5-figure valuations?

And your "Wealth Manager" (who has a job, and is likely not wealthy) has been pushing you to sell, so you sold?

Ah, okay then.

I'd posit that following Baron's commentary would have been far, far more prudent . . . time will tell.

Everyone has their own price targets, depending on age and goals. No need to be judgmental. And I believe the moral of this story was that the advice by the wealth manager to sell when SP was half what it is now was wisely ignored.
 

Singuy

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Anyone care to explain the advantages of dumping 2.5 million shares 10 mins prior to closing vs dumping it after market? If it's manipulation, wouldn't dumping 2.5 million shares be more effective on stock price than when open?
 
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Nocturnal

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Those crazy shorts still aren't covering? And more are going in? Yikes. Longs are playing with house money, being greedy on the short side seems really stupid right now.
Anyone care to explain the advantages of dumping 2.5 million shares 10 mins prior to closing vs dumping it after market? If it's manipulation, wouldn't dumping 2.5 million shares be more effective on stock price than when open?
Perhaps hoping to cause a panic. Doing that after market means that it is not possible for most to quickly sell.
 

Sparky4life

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I have had my Model 3 console display the below URL while driving. It appears that rendering this page overloads the computer, so the driving part of the screen gets all messed up: Instead of displaying driving speed it would just display the 'D' for drive and then all the various check-icons (seat belt, air bags, various lights) would light up. Also, when in reverse the rear view camera view suddenly had a very low frame rate.

So it would seem that the setting of the (Linux) process priorities could be improved.

Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Stock Price, Quote, History & News - Yahoo Finance

PS. SP pushing for ATH, 950

I’ve seen that to, and i suspect it’s caused by the process that is responsible for rendering the driving UI crashing and being restarted. The display of all the check icons is part of the initialization of that process (required by law so the driver can verify that the ‘lights’ are not burned out)

i also often drive around with this page displayed :D
 

Singuy

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Perhaps hoping to cause a panic. Doing that after market means that it is not possible for most to quickly sell.

So then why wouldn't you dump earlier in the day? 10 mins doesn't give a lot of people time to react besides activating stop losses but also activating buy orders. But then again low volume after market would have a much bigger impact on sp even though there's a possibility of gapping up the next day correct?.
 
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