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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

FreqFlyer

Member
Jan 24, 2019
752
2,672
Austin,Texas
What are they going to sue for? There were no injuries. This is a testament to how safe the Model 3 is.

It looks like the driver hit the brake and then proceeded to freak out and not brake. This kind of idiotic driving happens ALL the time because people are not good under stress. They were probably so distracted before they noticed there was a large truck in their lane they just froze up when they saw it.

The real takeaway here is $TSLAQ has lost the ability to crash the share price with this kind of "hit" story. These accidents happen in other brands all the time but they generally don't make the headlines.

So if this was "your" robotaxi and no one was hurt, knowing how the world thinks (unless one lives in a naive world). You think the occupants would not sue? Hurt or not? We live in a sue happy world, and to the question of who? It would be the owner of the vehicle and Tesla.

Click disagrees all day long, but no one has tackled the liability isse of when this happens in the "robotaxi" era. What happens to Tesla stock when 60 minutes blows the first accident out of proportion?
 

cricketman

Member
Feb 19, 2018
169
2,387
Spain
If you think there’s a problem, how about doing something productive about it, instead of just complaining? In this case you’re complaining about a lack of high quality analysis but I don’t see you adding any high quality analysis.

What a shame you have to actually do the work now instead of someone neatly packaging it for you.

Karen has a Twitter account, maybe check in there.

Yes you are right. I do my own analysis, but no I have not made it available to everyone else

Unfortunately I also have my own company to run that has nothing to do with investing, and I don't get the time to write my analysis down in a way that is easily digestable (most my analysis is in my head). One day I might. My investments are up $1.2m since mid-March and I am thinking about spending more time investing and less time in the day job. If I decide to do this, you will hear from me more often as I will be very happy to share my analysis :)
 

SO16

Active Member
Feb 25, 2016
2,715
8,566
MI
So if this was "your" robotaxi and no one was hurt, knowing how the world thinks (unless one lives in a naive world). You think the occupants would not sue? Hurt or not? We live in a sue happy world, and to the question of who? It would be the owner of the vehicle and Tesla.

Click disagrees all day long, but no one has tackled the liability isse of when this happens in the "robotaxi" era. What happens to Tesla stock when 60 minutes blows the first accident out of proportion?

Tesla will most likely have insurance coverage for this. It will be a bumpy ride no doubt. We are traveling in uncharted territory.

Just like any other story blown out of proportion. Some people will overreact and the stock will take a bit of a hit. I will laugh and buy more shares. Stock will go back up.
 

Curt Renz

Well-Known Member
Mar 5, 2013
6,336
80,460
USA
Barron's - 25 minutes ago: SpaceX Makes Tesla Stock Look Even Better. Just Ask Wall Street.

Excerpt:

The news connection is obvious: Elon Musk leads both companies. The link to Teslastock is less obvious, but Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas thinks the launch is a win for the electric-vehicle pioneer.

“We believe the implications for the space economy, the country and Tesla are significant,” wrote Jonas in a Monday research report.

For Tesla (ticker: TSLA), Jonas focused on Musk’s credibility. “The success of SpaceX in achieving some of the most sophisticated challenges in science has a direct bearing on public, investor and government perception of his ability to lead and execute,” he said.
 

Artful Dodger

"Ducimus, lit"
Aug 9, 2018
8,389
102,951
Canada
Barron's - 25 minutes ago: SpaceX Makes Tesla Stock Look Even Better. Just Ask Wall Street.

Excerpt:

The news connection is obvious: Elon Musk leads both companies. The link to Teslastock is less obvious, but Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas thinks the launch is a win for the electric-vehicle pioneer.

“We believe the implications for the space economy, the country and Tesla are significant,” wrote Jonas in a Monday research report.

For Tesla (ticker: TSLA), Jonas focused on Musk’s credibility. “The success of SpaceX in achieving some of the most sophisticated challenges in science has a direct bearing on public, investor and government perception of his ability to lead and execute,” he said.
Jonas made an appearance on CNBC this morning saying that SpaceX could go public within a couple of years:

 

PeterJA

Member
Sep 26, 2013
856
7,636
San Diego
...no one has tackled the liability isse of when this happens in the "robotaxi" era.

Tesla has.
Does Tesla Insurance cover ride sharing?
Like other personal insurance policies, Tesla Insurance covers the personal use of your vehicle and does not extend to commercial activities like ride-sharing, which requires a commercial policy. Tesla Insurance plans to offer a commercial policy in the future to support the Tesla ride-sharing network.
Tesla Insurance

Robotaxi insurance doesn't exist yet because robotaxis don't exist yet. They won't exist until they are at least 10 times safer than human drivers. They will still crash occasionally, but that is what insurance is for.
 

TheTalkingMule

Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Oct 20, 2012
6,516
22,564
Philadelphia, PA
Jonas made an appearance on CNBC this morning saying that SpaceX could go public within a couple of years:

This idiot. Literally anything he says might as well be stamped and the least likely outcome.

My favorite was him pitting a $10-500 SP range on TSLA.....and getting it wrong. How do these people even keep their jobs?
 

Christine600

Supporting Member
Oct 19, 2018
1,155
13,822
Scandiwegian
Why on earth would SpaceX want to go public? I can see them branching off Starlink, but not SpaceX proper.

I don't know why they would. Why do companies in general choose to go public?

But I would love to get some shares.

With the risky business of space travel SpaceX would probably be even more volatile than TSLA so perhaps the shorts brigade would get another favourite and let TSLA become more stable?

Would owning SpaceX shares give my family the ability to jump the queue when planning a holiday on Mars?
 

JusRelax

Member
Apr 24, 2019
876
11,078
Los Angeles, CA
Jonas made an appearance on CNBC this morning saying that SpaceX could go public within a couple of years:


This idiot. Literally anything he says might as well be stamped and the least likely outcome.

My favorite was him pitting a $10-500 SP range on TSLA.....and getting it wrong. How do these people even keep their jobs?

Pretty sure he meant Starlink, not Spacex.
 

dc_h

Active Member
Feb 14, 2015
3,476
12,998
Naperville, IL
I know I put a sale order in at $954 a month back for my planned sell strategy for my model S, so it'll probably brush by 940 and float back down, haha.

It might not be a bad idea to put in a covered call at $950. You can probably get an added $20 per hundred shares and if it doesn't hit, you got a free $2000. I do think we may be due for a big breakout, but if you have an exit point you won't regret...

Cheers to the longs today. Nice rally.
 

JusRelax

Member
Apr 24, 2019
876
11,078
Los Angeles, CA
Does anyone know if ValueAnalyst on twitter sold his TSLA? I haven't seen any shoe-eating posts since he came back from his temporary ban.

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