Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[lafrisbee]

I don't know why a specific reason is necessary for this move (other than general buying pressure) because the move down was just a reflexive action by weak longs and traders based on nothing more than how quickly it rose. So this move up is just confirming the catalysts that took us over $1000 in the first place.

These moves aren't large considering the kind of opportunities Tesla is staring right in the face. They are normal and expected for ANY stock in a similar position. They typically don't correspond to anything fundamental, it's just a reflection of the general market sentiment towards the stock and the share price on any given day. That's why all stock price charts are jagged even when there is no news. If there are fundamental re-appraisals being reflected in the price they are largely lost as noise in the bigger picture of mood and sentiment.

I wish I could see it that way.
I keep abreast of all the noise, and it just seems that the MM controls the stock. They want it here. Sometimes when we get one of those long candlesticks its just because they let their foot of of its neck because they know they need to regroup and start all over with the manipulations.
As an investor I can live with all of this mess. I don't like it, but I am more than willing to let it play out.

 

[Christine600]

This is what happening. JPow is a certified OG.
The Fed says it is going to start buying individual corporate bonds
Macros seem to like it /s

Odd Guy?
Old Git?
Offensive Gamer?

Sorry - I'm off googling

 

[dl003]

Odd Guy?
Old Git?
Offensive Gamer?

Sorry - I'm off googling

Original Gangster
His bravado is particularly commendable. It's not so much the act of buying but the willingness to tell the MSM that he's going to. Single-handedly propping up the market.

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

I wish I could see it that way.
I keep abreast of all the noise, and it just seems that the MM controls the stock. They want it here. Sometimes when we get one of those long candlesticks its just because they let their foot of of its neck because they know they need to regroup and start all over with the manipulations.
As an investor I can live with all of this mess. I don't like it, but I am more than willing to let it play out.

Eh I mean I'm one of the ones on here that thinks we've been in an artificial range since Q1 earnings but the surprise Semi news shows how the stock can easily get away from MM's. I've always thought as we got into the 2nd half of June and close to Q2 P/D, buying volume will steadily increase and thus MM's will have less and less influence. The Semi news just kinda kickstarted the buying.

 

[ggr]

Noice! That's 65 large.

Mind sharing when you purchased the Call option, and (ballpark) cost of the contract?

Any more contracts lurking about?

Cheers!

Not the person you asked, but, I just rolled some January '22 $350 calls into twice the number of $900 calls to increase leverage. Bought Dec 17 for $94, sold for $621.46, 561% gain. This Friday, I have some $650 calls bought on Dec 20 for $4.75, currently showing 6,818%. These I intend to allow to exercise, convert into shares. Tesla was trading around $400 at the time of these purchases.

 

[jhm]

Strikes me as a little odd because Travis County contains the State Capitol/government and most of Austin, but not the piece of land between Hutto and Taylor that has been the subject of scrutiny. That's in Williamson County which is one up to the north. I very much doubt Travis County has any land cheap enough to put a Texafactory.

To secure this land, would Elon need to make a deal with Jabba?

 

[wipster]

Wow 985... did not expect that today without something monumental, like announcement of TeraTexas or Battery day or Elon stating he's actually an android...

Good on TSLA!

 

[Papafox]

This is nice: our second Mighty Monday in a row. Once TSLA breaks out on a Monday and climbs past a certain point, the pattern is that TSLA just keeps climbing for the rest of market trading and then some. With only 12 million shares traded so far, and yet with about $50 in gains, the market makers are busy buying to delta-hedge and once the pattern sets in it's hard for the manipulators to turn around. They tried keeping TSLA under 950 today, but once the stock blasted through, it was off to the races.

We could still see a push down during second half of the week for the Friday options expirations. Nonetheless, we're now in our 5th week in a row of gains, averaging about 4% per week (even with end of week manipulations). One can make money trading the patterns, but my TSLA portfolio has increased so much in the past year that I'm no longer inspired to wake up at 3:30am (here in Hawaii) in order to do short-term trades. HODL works for me at present.

 

[computerchuck]

FYI on Troy's Model Y tracker someone has a vin in the 164XX range.

I've ordered my Model Y in December.

About an hour ago, I received my VIN. 185XX.

Hopefully this means that production is going very well. Fingers crossed.

 

[jhm]

I've ordered my Model Y in December.

About an hour ago, I received my VIN. 185XX.

Hopefully this means that production is going very well. Fingers crossed.

Saturday, we took delivery of our MY with vin 68XX.

 

[ggr]

I'm having a beer now after dinner to celebrate that the upper Bollinger Band is well past a thousand at $1009 $1010.

It will be nice to cross $1000 without busting the upper Bollinger Bound. That's a strong sign that it can stay there.

 

[jhm]

Up and away.

 

[dgodfrey]

Odd Guy?
Old Git?
Offensive Gamer?

Sorry - I'm off googling

Look at that, you bungled your way to the answer. It was "off googling".

 

[cricketman]

Living in this country, and knowing this government, I don't have high hopes.
Any incentives will have to tick two boxes:
1. Support Spanish manufacturing. Spain doesn't currently make any fully electric cars. They are experts in diesel engines and the government has been talking about nationalizing an old Nissan factory in Barcelona that Nissan has recently closed down because the tooling was outdated and the unions always threatening strike action. Last year, the Minister of Industry stated proudly "Diesel still plays a big part of the future"
2. Not favour "rich" people i.e. anyone who buys an expensive car
Probably there will be a EUR35,000 limit to the car, or the incentive will only for people who earn less than EUR40,000 per year i.e. Teslas will be excluded (Cheapest Tesla here is EUR49,000)
I hope I am wrong! Fingers crossed

The help in Spain is as I thought!

EUR4,000 discount for EVs that cost less than EUR45,000 and the manufacturer must give another EUR1,000 discount

Cheapest Tesla in Spain new is EUR49,000 so they have been deliberately excluded.

They are also subsidising hybrids and eco diesels but for a lesser amount. I.e.those cars made in Spain or by brands that have factories in Spain

This is help to support the car industry in Spain not to help transform the energy landscape

 

[Kenypowa]

I've ordered my Model Y in December.

About an hour ago, I received my VIN. 185XX.

Hopefully this means that production is going very well. Fingers crossed.

This is actually incredible. My Model 3 VIN is in the 18000 and it didn't get produced until the 10th month into mass production. Model Y got there after 4 months including a two month shutdown.

 

[computerchuck]

It will be nice to cross $1000 without busting the upper Bollinger Bound. That's a strong sign that it can stay there.

 

[LN1_Casey]

This is actually incredible. My Model 3 VIN is in the 18000 and it didn't get produced until the 10th month into mass production. Model Y got there after 4 months including a two month shutdown.

Well, not a full two month shut down. They shut down before the last week of March, and opened on early the second week of May. So, like, a month and a half.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

After all the news about fears of a second wave & Futures being well down, the market shoots up
I have learnt a lesson over the last 18 months to not trade & instead invest

 

[kanweg]

The help in Spain is as I thought!

EUR4,000 discount for EVs that cost less than EUR45,000 and the manufacturer must give another EUR1,000 discount

Cheapest Tesla in Spain new is EUR49,000 so they have been deliberately excluded.

Same 45k cut off, 4K subsidy and 49k prices are applicable in the Netherlands.

Tesla could sell a software limited 200 km version at that price point to beat the discrimination. It’s selling point could be: No range anxiety because you would always have this range, even in winter (as there is plenty of battery). And of course you could buy an unlock later if you want to have the full battery available.

 

[Unpilot]

Yes a good week indeed....damn it feels good to be a gangster.