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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

MC3OZ

Active Member
Jul 25, 2019
2,033
10,906
QLD Australia
What is the best way to fight back?

Sit on our shares and get slowly rich?

People pay too much attention to FUD.

Short term it can move the market, so that is a risk....

Regardless of its merits the fact that the JD Power report can move the market more than the leaks on Roadrunner just shows most people are not focused on what is important.

I don't think Tesla QA is a big issue relative the the amount of innovation and rapid progress they are making.... Tesla needs to be better at after sales service, and customer service in general..

But Roadrunner should increase margins, Model Y should increase market share, with higher margins and more market share, Tesla can throw more resources at QA and service... A lot of the problem is simply resourcing, the rest is staff training and perhaps organisation.

What Tesla should do is, hire a good communicator, give then the task of fixing customer service with adequate resources, give customers a way of escalating where the problem goes straight to the top... not Elon, the new hire.. the buck stops with him/her.. and good performance should be rewarded, good performance is happier customers. As customers we would like this, but as shareholders it is equally important, it is the final hurdle..

To be 100% clear I don't think the right service culture costs that much more and as a marketing tool it is very effective. A happy customer is a return customer who tells their friends and relatives how great Tesla service is.
 
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Jackl1956

Active Member
May 11, 2013
1,788
11,335
Los Angeles
My suggestion:

We as a community solicit donations for a full page ad in the New Times, or similar national publication, challenging the claims made by JD Powers.

Furthermore, we question the motives for the JD powers article, and the legitimacy of their organization.

Finally, we ask the owners of Tesla vehicles to sign our challenge.

You can’t fight all media, but you can single one out. I for one, would like to push back against FUD. Hard.

The truth is an awesome weapon.
 

DFibRL8R

Active Member
Jan 17, 2013
1,286
1,795
Leesburg Virginia
Picking up my 'Y', VIN 16,xxx Friday at may local SC. Doing my best to support Tesla, the environment, and (selflessly) my finances as a long time investor.
Just got mine:cool:
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RobStark

Well-Known Member
Jul 2, 2013
10,228
52,305
City of Champions, USA
We as a community solicit donations for a full page ad in the New Times, or similar national publication, challenging the claims made by JD Powers.

A full page black & white New York Times ad cost $150k plus.

I have been on a few boards where someone suggest that.

Gofundme or some such has never raised more than $3k.

Given TSLA positions here this might go higher but not anywhere near $150k.
 

Jackl1956

Active Member
May 11, 2013
1,788
11,335
Los Angeles
A full page black & white New York Times ad cost $150k plus.

I have been on a few boards where someone suggest that.

Gofundme or some such has never raised more than $3k.

Given TSLA positions here this might go higher but not anywhere near $150k.

In March Tesla built and delivered its one millionth car. I’m suggesting that the pool of potential contributors may have grown. The number of folks who know the truth has increased exponentially.
 
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Singuy

Active Member
Jun 28, 2018
3,294
22,318
US
What is the best way to fight back?

Don’t mistake my question. I’ve been long TSLA for nearly ten years; I have every intention of measuring my investment in decades. That said, I do like to grin and fight.

If I could change anything about our community; I would love to see a coordinated LONG attack.
Best way to fight back is to sit and watch their narrative explode into billion pieces of pain as Tesla make surprise profit quarter after quarter. Without FUD we wouldn't have short covering rallies.
 

tcoombes

Supporting Member
Jan 22, 2018
1,046
3,060
Northern California
In March Tesla built and delivered its one millionth car. I’m suggesting that the pool of potential contributors may have grown. The number of folks who know the truth has increased exponentially.

Articles from Tesla owners and shareholders that state the truth, point to the future, and discredit the self-serving analysts and FUDsters. We could possibly get some of the free services to pick up the articles and if we get noticed they could get picked up by the bigger services. Or, we could start with a local interest story of a tesla owner and shareholder - again maybe getting picked up by a larger service. More of a long shot, but a cheaper alternative.
 

Gwgan

Almost a wagon
Aug 11, 2013
2,837
2,089
Maine
@GerberKawasaki: Tesla sent out Q2 delivery consensus. Looking like 8500 model s/x and 61,700 3/Y for a total of over 70k cars delivered for q2 estimated. This is a great number with being shut down for a month dealing with #coronavirus and launching #ModelY $tsla
https://twitter.com/GerberKawasaki/status/1275982979727110147

What is this? Did Tesla give internal numbers to investors or just note Street concensus?
 

StarFoxisDown!

Active Member
Jan 23, 2019
2,182
15,527
Seattle

KevinR

TSLA long since 2011
Dec 9, 2012
510
5,118
Colorado
What is the best way to fight back?

Don’t mistake my question. I’ve been long TSLA for nearly ten years; I have every intention of measuring my investment in decades. That said, I do like to grin and fight.

If I could change anything about our community; I would love to see a coordinated LONG attack.

I truly appreciate the sentiment but I think the best strategy is to ignore the FUD. Short term they may catch attention. Long term they lose all credibility. We should continue to speak the truth about our individual experiences with Tesla. This word of mouth advertising is more powerful than any media campaign. Well, that's my 2 cents.
 

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