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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

astrotoy

Supporting Member
Jan 24, 2013
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SF Bay Area
Wow, Tesla's new solar pricing must have really attracted a lot of new customers: Powerwall 3.0

We ordered our powerwalls in the Spring and after accepting our deposit, they contacted us a few weeks later and gave us the name of a local contractor. Tesla was backlogged and couldn't guarantee that we would have everything installed and working by the end of the year which is necessary to get the Federal Tax Credit. The contractor (a Tesla Powerwall dealer) has moved ahead and we are in the permitting stage now, so should be done within a month or two assuming the permitting gets done in a reasonable time. California has an additional rebate so we are getting the powerwalls and associated equipment and installation at over 50% off. You do need to have solar to get the powerwalls. We've had our solar panels since 2009 from Solar City. When they talked to us they told us that Elon Musk was the chairman of the company (the sales person said "you know, he is one of the founders of Paypal!"). No mention of Tesla back then.
 

Sudre

Active Member
May 30, 2012
1,038
6,622
CNBC - hour ago:

Listening to these kinds of bears changing their story seems to indicate to me they are expecting a rather large equity raise (10% in this case). In order for it to make sense, these bears who's institution want in on the action have to change their story so the price they will be buying at makes sense. If they don't change their story the investors they have will ask WHY shares of TSLA are in their portfolio if Tesla is such a horrible buy. Most people rely on their broker's advice. They are not like us and following things.

Does that mean there will be a large second offering for the SP500 inclusion? I really don't know but an offering sure is getting hinted at. Think back at how many times Elon would say "No second offering" at the ER and then poof... second offering. I think what it comes down to is when large institutions come to Elon and say, "Hey dude we would really like to throw large sums of money at you!", Elon looks at what he can do with that money and accepts it. The question now is if Elon doesn't see anything MORE they can do... is Tesla at max growth rate?
 

StealthP3D

Well-Known Member
Dec 12, 2018
8,629
63,228
Maple Falls, WA
Hamilton was a Brit - we celebrate him as one of our own. Somebody had to sort you lot out...

Errr...yes, that should make him a traitor to you guys. He fought against British troops, stole 24 British canons and signed the Declaration of Independence. You can't claim him for your own after he renounced Britain.

On the other hand, he was diametrically opposed to many of the most cherished ideals held by our more revered founders of America. The main thing he had in common with them is that he was willing to succeed from Britain. But primarily because he saw how that could be personally very profitable for himself.:oops: So I wish you guys would claim him back but you can't! :D
 
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Jackl1956

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May 11, 2013
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Los Angeles
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My official retirement date from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power will be 1 September 2020. Actually, I’m promoting to avocado farmer.

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Thanks Elon

Of course, that old farm house will need a new roof...
 

Nocturnal

Supporting Member
Aug 23, 2018
6,054
30,078
In the middle
Errr...yes, that should make him a traitor to you guys. He fought against British troops, stole 24 British canons and signed the Declaration of Independence. You can't claim him for your own after he renounced Britain.

On the other hand, he was diametrically opposed to many of the most cherished ideals held by our more revered founders of America. The main thing he had in common with them is that he was willing to succeed from Britain. But primarily because he saw how that could be personally very profitable for himself.:oops: So I wish you guys would claim him back but you can't! :D
That sounds like an American ideal if I've ever heard one.

View attachment 576365 My official retirement date from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power will be 1 September 2020. Actually, I’m promoting to avocado farmer.

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Thanks Elon

Of course, that old farm house will need a new roof...
Wow man, nice.
 

floydboy

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Oct 31, 2019
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South Florida
I have to admit I fall for the click bait yet again:
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While in the article:






So, basically Polestar is more enjoyable because it’s slower, and the author doesn’t know Tesla has chill mode.
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What the heck is with these 'elegant pull away' types?! Does anyone not know how to modulate an accelerator pedal anymore?! It's easier in a Tesla than it is in an ICE car because the behavior is so smooth and linear. Made up BS like this, just to negate a Tesla advantage, burns my buns.
 

jerry33

(S85-3/2/13 traded in) X LR: F2611##-3/27/20
Mar 8, 2012
19,516
21,710
Texas
What the heck is with these 'elegant pull away' types! Does anyone not know how to modulate an accelerator pedal anymore?! It's easier in a Tesla than it is in an ICE car because the behavior is so smooth and linear. Made up BS like this, just to negate a Tesla advantage, burns my buns.
The detractors have hardly any ammunition left so they have to say something. Tesla's not going away anytime soon; there's no fires anymore; the only demand issue is lack of production; the SEC is no longer a problem; claims of fraud and similar are discounted by everyone because no company can build multiple factories without a solid track record, resale value is better than most, etc.
 

jerry33

(S85-3/2/13 traded in) X LR: F2611##-3/27/20
Mar 8, 2012
19,516
21,710
Texas
Hmm...but even if someone puts in a sell order by mistake @$1,000, wouldn't it fill / sell at a higher price because of all the buy orders above it that would be at say $1600, or $1500 first ?
I believe it depends on the broker and which of the systems provided by the broker is being used. There are some one-click-wonders that don't give you a chance and that will just sell/buy at the price you put in. The more traditional multi-click ones make you go through a couple of checks before placing the order.
 

Causalien

Prime 8 ball Oracle
Nov 19, 2012
3,738
13,521
Pothead's Republic of Canukstan (PRC)
Listening to these kinds of bears changing their story seems to indicate to me they are expecting a rather large equity raise (10% in this case). In order for it to make sense, these bears who's institution want in on the action have to change their story so the price they will be buying at makes sense. If they don't change their story the investors they have will ask WHY shares of TSLA are in their portfolio if Tesla is such a horrible buy. Most people rely on their broker's advice. They are not like us and following things.

Does that mean there will be a large second offering for the SP500 inclusion? I really don't know but an offering sure is getting hinted at. Think back at how many times Elon would say "No second offering" at the ER and then poof... second offering. I think what it comes down to is when large institutions come to Elon and say, "Hey dude we would really like to throw large sums of money at you!", Elon looks at what he can do with that money and accepts it. The question now is if Elon doesn't see anything MORE they can do... is Tesla at max growth rate?

There's one thing they can do with 30 bil. Buy spacex.
 

Nocturnal

Supporting Member
Aug 23, 2018
6,054
30,078
In the middle
The detractors have hardly any ammunition left so they have to say something. Tesla's not going away anytime soon; there's no fires anymore; the only demand issue is lack of production; the SEC is no longer a problem; claims of fraud and similar are discounted by everyone because no company can build multiple factories without a solid track record, resale value is better than most, etc.
It's not a coincidence that "omg panel gaps" has taken over again. Even in the Cybertruck potential buyer groups. I'm so tired of hearing "teslas have quality problems" because they don't understand that 5 Youtube videos isn't a good sample set.
There's one thing they can do with 30 bil. Buy spacex.
Please stop because I can only get so...
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