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Surprised no one's mentioned Hondas' departure from the UK. NOT Brexit related ( apparently) the BBC are devastated :) oh and the loyal work force are unhappy it has to be said. 2 down 1 to go? Of course they JAPS don't need the uk "aircraft carrier" any more now they have carte Blanche from the Eu. To be fair they are just looking after their own-- carn't blame ' em.

Turns out BRExit was a big factor in Honda's decision to close their UK plant and leaving:

"Honda's plant closure puts 7,000 car industry jobs at risk"

'Industry experts say Brexit also played a huge role in the decision.

“I have listened to several Honda senior executives [at a recent industry event] saying that membership of the [EU] customs union was needed for them to operate in the UK … This should not come as a surprise to anyone who took the industry warnings seriously,” according to Oxford professor Matthias Holweg, who specialises in manufacturing and operations management.

Holweg noted that the EU-Japan free trade deal also factored into the plan to move production back to Honda’s home base.'​

Publicly I'd expect Honda to downplay the BRExit aspect, as Honda still wants to sell in the UK and do not want to alienate any Leaver customers.

Honda's decision to "leave" is probably only the beginning in a string of upcoming "leave" decisions in the UK manufacturing and service sectors as BRexit gets closer and as it gets executed.

Other predictions: further fall in new car purchases as the weaker British pound makes foreign made cars more expensive and economic uncertainty causes consumers to defer purchases.

This could negatively affect Tesla's UK sales as well.
 
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Turns out BRExit was a big factor in Honda's decision to close their UK plant and leaving:

"Honda's plant closure puts 7,000 car industry jobs at risk"

'Industry experts say Brexit also played a huge role in the decision.

“I have listened to several Honda senior executives [at a recent industry event] saying that membership of the [EU] customs union was needed for them to operate in the UK … This should not come as a surprise to anyone who took the industry warnings seriously,” according to Oxford professor Matthias Holweg, who specialises in manufacturing and operations management.

Holweg noted that the EU-Japan free trade deal also factored into the plan to move production back to Honda’s home base.'​

Publicly I'd expect Honda to downplay the BRExit aspect, as Honda still wants to sell in the UK and do not want to alienate any Leaver customers.

Honda's decision to "leave" is probably only the beginning in a string of upcoming "leave" decisions in the UK manufacturing and service sectors as BRexit gets closer and as it gets executed.

Other predictions: further fall in new car purchases as the weaker British pound makes foreign made cars more expensive and economic uncertainty causes consumers to defer purchases.

This could negatively affect Tesla's UK sales as well.
Don't take it too hard but even Al-Ja-Beeba couldn't swallow that one, as for Oxbridge accademic weeeeeell:oops:
 
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The EU and Japan have only recently concluded a comprehensive free trade agreement.

Note how the UK was unable to secure a trade deal, Japan delayed the bilateral trade agreement with the UK:

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"Britain and Japan have made little progress on a new trade deal in the past 18 months, according to officials involved in the talks, with tariffs set to revert to World Trade Organization levels at the end of March unless the UK ratifies a Brexit deal…"

"Tokyo is confident that it can secure better terms from the UK than it did in negotiations with the much larger EU, and is not willing to duplicate the existing treaty precisely in either a bilateral deal or in talks for the UK to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership group."
Here is the UK counterpart admitting that Japan is unwilling to agree to a trade agreement before Brexit:

I.e. Japan is slow-walking the bilateral trade agreement, because they (correctly) believe that they can get better terms from a weaker UK post BRexit, than they were able to negotiate with the EU.

This is precisely the weaker trade negotiation position I explained to @cheshire cat last year. Reality is catching up with the UK.

All of this will add up very quickly and could hurt UK new car purchasing power and Tesla's UK demand as well.

Edit: fixed the error @KarenRei pointed out.
 
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While unveiling the Model Y in Shanghai would make a certain level of sense, I'd suggest caution trusting that source, the same article predicts a 2019 unveil of the Tesla Semi:

"In addition, it is expected that Tesla's electric truck Semi will be unveiled in the US by the end of2019."​

The problem: the Tesla Semi Truck was already unveiled in 2017...

They probably mean the pickup truck, not the semi truck, but this is nevertheless a big factual error. (Also, shame on 'evspecifications' for fudging their articles to disable copy&pasting of quotes.)
 
Don't take it too hard but even Al-Ja-Beeba couldn't swallow that one, as for Oxbridge accademic weeeeeell:oops:

Actually, it's a named source, not an anonymous source, it's Oxford professor Matthias Holweg:

Matthias Holweg | Saïd Business School

"Matthias [Holweg]'s areas of expertise include process improvement, digital operations, and the automotive industry."

Are you accusing Matthias Holweg of lying and of libel of Honda, when he reported the following:

“I have listened to several Honda senior executives [at a recent industry event] saying that membership of the [EU] customs union was needed for them to operate in the UK … This should not come as a surprise to anyone who took the industry warnings seriously,” according to Oxford professor Matthias Holweg, who specialises in manufacturing and operations management.

Holweg noted that the EU-Japan free trade deal also factored into the plan to move production back to Honda’s home base.'​

?

Even Sky News, hardly a Remainer, admits that Honda's decision to close their UK plant was due to the "consequences of Brexit":

Japan/EU trade deal likely the biggest factor in Honda move from Swindon

"Sky's economics editor says Brexit consequences, rather than Brexit itself, have driven Honda's looming exit from Swindon."
Another consequence of BRexit is going to be dropping demand for new cars, including Tesla's vehicles. Tesla's decision to introduce the RHD version of the Model 3 in a few months will come at a very tumultuous period of time.
 
Don't take it too hard but even Al-Ja-Beeba couldn't swallow that one, as for Oxbridge accademic weeeeeell:oops:

I do believe Honda's decision to pack up and leave is the result of a number of factors, but that doesn't mean that Brexit wasn't one of them. For all the talk of Britain "taking back control" via Brexit, there are more and more obvious indicators that all it is achieving is putting its economy in a weaker position. So dismissing these increasingly-frequent news of large international businesses leaving as nothing to do with Brexit is, at a minimum, not very helpful.

Sadly, some of the people most affected by these changes - the workers in those production facilities - may actually have been some of those who directly contributed to the result of the June 2016 referendum and thus to their own predicament.

Sorry for the Brexit mini-rant, it's just that this situation really pisses me off! Just trying to prove you can do something (like leaving the EU structures) doesn't mean you should actually go ahead and do it, and then beat your chest about it!
 
In addition to the Needham conference I just listened to and read the transcript of the Q3 earnings call for Maxwell Technologies. It was well worth reading/listening to for me!

I want to recommend reading/listening to it completely (52:40 minutes), but specifically the response to questions from Noah Kaye made me confident that Maxwell really managed a breakthrough in dry electrode batteries and is already underway of building a prototype manufacturing line with Tesla (possibly with Tesla and Panasonic).

Transcript (go to single page view to search for Noah Kaye):

https://seekingalpha.com/article/42...fink-q3-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript

Maxwell Investor Relations with link to webcast:

Maxwell Technologies, Inc. - Investors - Overview

Based on the release date I'd expect Q4 results soon? Does the buyout by Tesla change that?
 
While unveiling the Model Y in Shanghai would make a certain level of sense, I'd suggest caution trusting that source, the same article predicts a 2019 unveil of the Tesla Semi:

"In addition, it is expected that Tesla's electric truck Semi will be unveiled in the US by the end of2019."​

The problem: the Tesla Semi Truck was already unveiled in 2017...

They probably mean the pickup truck, not the semi truck, but this is nevertheless a big factual error. (Also, shame on 'evspecifications' for fudging their articles to disable copy&pasting of quotes.)

As long as I read and understand, this news is about unveiling in China, not in general. I saw there's a link to the Chinese source at the end of the article.
 
As long as I read and understand, this news is about unveiling in China, not in general. I saw there's a link to the Chinese source at the end of the article.

Indeed, the original Chinese article says this:

"Tesla's electric truck Semi has already begun to accept reservations, but the car has never been unveiled in China. Since Musk believes that China is an important overseas market for Tesla and has begun to build factories in China, the appearance of this car in China is also very important and necessary."​

The Model Y part of the article still doesn't make sense, unless Elon does a U.S. unveil event earlier than mid-April - i.e. does it on March 15 as originally planned.
 
Indeed, the original Chinese article says this:

"Tesla's electric truck Semi has already begun to accept reservations, but the car has never been unveiled in China. Since Musk believes that China is an important overseas market for Tesla and has begun to build factories in China, the appearance of this car in China is also very important and necessary."​

The Model Y part of the article still doesn't make sense, unless Elon does a U.S. unveil event earlier than mid-April - i.e. does it on March 15 as originally planned.

This is what the article says: "hence announcing the Model Y in China a month later sounds credible, if indeed March 15th is the US official announcement date".
 
The Model Y part of the article still doesn't make sense, unless Elon does a U.S. unveil event earlier than mid-April - i.e. does it on March 15 as originally planned.

Why not?
China shows incredible will to accommodate TSLA and seems to be extremely supportive with the execution of the new GF. Making a reveal of important product there will validate how appreciative TSLA is for that.
Outside of China, the EV competition for Tesla is almost non-existent. In China the story is different. Making a reveal that gets attention from the government press, multiplying the exposure, will be hugely beneficial.

Food for thought:

Tesla.cn stats:
Global Rank
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23,483 5,538
Rank in China
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2,544

Tesla.com stats:
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2,231 139
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This is what the article says: "hence announcing the Model Y in China a month later sounds credible, if indeed March 15th is the US official announcement date".
There was no official Model Y announcement date. It was just Elon tweeting out a guess of approximate dates months ago. Even official dates have a habit of shifting on Tesla.

Why not?
China shows incredible will to accommodate TSLA and seems to be extremely supportive with the execution of the new GF. Making a reveal of important product there will validate how appreciative TSLA is for that.
Outside of China, the EV competition for Tesla is almost non-existent. In China the story is different. Making a reveal that gets attention from the government press, multiplying the exposure, will be hugely beneficial.

USA is their core market where Model Y will be produced and launched first. They are going to reveal it in the US for maximum publicity (whenever it happens this year).
 
BTW., the 2018 10-K has just been filed:

Some details:

The 10-K was signed by Deepak Ahuja, as expected - falsifying the $TSLAQ noise that Deepak was leaving due to disagreements over accounting:

Date: February 19, 2019 /s/ Deepak Ahuja
Deepak Ahuja
Chief Financial Officer
(Principal Financial Officer)​

Tesla reaffirms Shanghai Gigafactory production start by the end of 2019:

"we began construction of our Gigafactory Shanghai in China, where we intend to commence production of certain trims of Model 3 for the local market by the end of 2019."
Local debt and limited China capex reaffirmed:

"We expect much of the investment in Gigafactory Shanghai to be provided through local debt financing, supported by limited direct capital expenditures by us. Moreover, we are targeting the capital expenditures per unit of production capacity at this factory to be less than that of our Model 3 production at the Tesla Factory, from which we have drawn learnings that should allow us to simplify our manufacturing layout and processes at Gigafactory Shanghai."
I.e. the $2.5b annual capex guidance for 2019 doesn't include significant China capex.

I don't think I've seen this before, they are working to qualify other cell makers for production vehicles, not just Panasonic:

"In addition, while several sources of the battery cell we have selected for our battery packs are available, we have currently fully qualified only one cell supplier for the battery packs we use in our production vehicles. We are working to fully qualify additional cells from other manufacturers."​

Tesla will be using Gigafactory 1 components in China initially:

As we expect to commence our manufacturing activities in China using progressively increased levels of localization through local sourcing and manufacturing, we expect that we will need to initially support manufacturing activities there with production processes at our existing manufacturing facilities, such as Gigafactory 1.
Since Elon said that they are going to do battery pack assembly in China, the two main components made in GF1 are the power train and the cells. Also note that in the 10-K they do not mention battery pack assembly in China anymore:

"Furthermore, in January 2019 we commenced construction of our Gigafactory Shanghai in China. We expect to build a production process that is optimized and simplified for Model 3 production, comprised of stamping, body joining and paint shops and general assembly, at Gigafactory Shanghai to begin production of certain trims of Model 3 for China by the end of 2019."​

I.e. I'd expect them to ship fully assembled Standard Range battery packs made by the new Grohmann machine at Gigafactory 1, to Shanghai. This should allow them to ramp up China Model 3 production quickly.

They disclosed 2018 regional revenue in the 10-K, which only shows up in the annual reports:

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The following table presents revenues by geographic area based on the sales
location of our products (in thousands):
                          Year Ended December 31,
                          2018           2017            2016
           United States  $ 14,871,507   $  6,221,439    $ 4,200,706
           China             1,757,147      2,027,062      1,065,255
           Netherlands         965,596        330,343        305,184
           Norway              812,730        823,081        335,572
           Other             3,054,288      2,356,826      1,093,415
           Total          $ 21,461,268   $ 11,758,751    $ 7,000,132

China sales indeed dropped in 2018 by about $270m, but revenue in all other non-Model-3 regions increased by +$1,322m, which is very healthy overall growth in Model S/X and other product sales. Demand in Non-China areas was more than able to pick up available supply - even if we exclude Model 3 sales in the U.S.

They reaffirm that they will "likely" be making the Model Y at Gigafactory 1:

"Finally, we have announced that we will likely manufacture Model Y at Gigafactory 1."​

2019 capex of $2.5b reaffirmed:

"Capital expenditures in 2019 are projected to be approximately $2.5 billion, mostly to support increases in Model 3 production capacity at Gigafactory 1 and the Tesla Factory, the establishment of Model 3 production capacity at Gigafactory Shanghai, and the addition of manufacturing capacity for Model Y, which we intend to produce in volume by the end of 2020, as well as the ongoing expansion of our retail locations, service centers, body shops, Mobile Service fleet, and Supercharger stations."​

Note the disclosure that they plan to reach volume production of the Model Y by the "end of 2020" - I don't think it's been stated before.

Opex in 2019 reaffirmed to grow by less than 10% over total 2018 levels:

"Generally, we expect operating expenses as a percentage of revenue to continue to decrease in the future due to increases in expected revenues and as we focus on increasing operational efficiency. In addition, due to our cost management efforts to maximize operational efficiency, we expect operating expenses in 2019 to grow by less than 10% from 2018."​

Since revenue is going to increase from $20b to $30b the opex proportion of revenue is going to drop significantly in 2019.
 
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BTW., the 2018 10-K has just been filed:

Some details:

The 10-K was signed by Deepak Ahuja, as expected - falsifying the $TSLAQ noise that Deepak was leaving due to disagreements over accounting:

Date: February 19, 2019 /s/ Deepak Ahuja
Deepak Ahuja
Chief Financial Officer
(Principal Financial Officer)​

Tesla reaffirms Shanghai Gigafactory production start by the end of 2019:

"we began construction of our Gigafactory Shanghai in China, where we intend to commence production of certain trims of Model 3 for the local market by the end of 2019."
Local debt and limited China capex reaffirmed:

"We expect much of the investment in Gigafactory Shanghai to be provided through local debt financing, supported by limited direct capital expenditures by us. Moreover, we are targeting the capital expenditures per unit of production capacity at this factory to be less than that of our Model 3 production at the Tesla Factory, from which we have drawn learnings that should allow us to simplify our manufacturing layout and processes at Gigafactory Shanghai."
I.e. the $2.5b annual capex guidance for 2019 doesn't include significant China capex.

I don't think I've seen this before, they are working to qualify other cell makers for production vehicles, not just Panasonic:

"In addition, while several sources of the battery cell we have selected for our battery packs are available, we have currently fully qualified only one cell supplier for the battery packs we use in our production vehicles. We are working to fully qualify additional cells from other manufacturers."​

Tesla will be using Gigafactory 1 components in China initially:

As we expect to commence our manufacturing activities in China using progressively increased levels of localization through local sourcing and manufacturing, we expect that we will need to initially support manufacturing activities there with production processes at our existing manufacturing facilities, such as Gigafactory 1.
Since Elon said that they are going to do battery pack assembly in China, the two main components made in GF1 are the power train and the cells.
So I have asked this before and met with ridicule. Will tesla mix batteries of more than one source in a car. If not will you be able to identify whether car you buy haspanasonic or other source batteries?