When the stock is going up, buying Calls seems easy. It doesn't matter if you are using Margin or not, if the stock crashes like it did from December 2018 to Jun 2019, and you are holding LEAPS, you will get killed. I lost $500,000 in Jan 2020 LEAPS with that drop. Luckily, I was smart AND LUCKY and sold stock around 200 and bought 2021 LEAPS which went up and erased my 2020 LEAPS losses. I can't tell you how painful that drop was. In the future, I will only buy LEAPS after a massive drop like we had 6 months ago. I will NEVER buy them again near an ATH. Sure, the stock might go up, but if macros turn against you, or Tesla has some setbacks, the SP will drop and you will lose big, because the time decay will start to kill you too. Just my 2 cents based on my agony this last year.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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shrspeedblade
Rideshare Monkey
Checked the price this morning and this is what greeted me:
Merry Christmas everybody!
RFernatt
Solar/EV Owner/Enthusiast
Just because your friends and associates might be TSLA shorts doesn't mean they don't get Christmas presents!
Especially if you're on their "off-the-books" payroll!
Unfortunately, SANTAQ ran into some turbulence with Air Tesla.
Joining S&P 500 index is a likely event in 2020. We discussed this in the past. I think the event will trigger significant rally because long investors are unlikely to sell shares. On the other hand, short position is still very large both in shares and in naked derivative positions (my estimates). I don't know how they can cover.
My predictions:
Model Y will be very positive. All the little issues in Model 3 have been detected and fixed. Model Y will have very high quality right off the line.
China production will be very positive. Much higher margin.
Larger production scale tend to increase margin.
Higher oil price is coming, which should be very positive for EV demand. Oil demand is going up. China continues to sell 20 million gasoline vehicles a year, those are new purchase, not to replace old vehicles. Oil exploration activity has been off cliff for a while.
FSD features will increase vehicle demand and the feature take rate.
I will stay bullish until we join S&P, then I will re-exam the situation. I won't sell my shares until they hit $8k.
My predictions:
Model Y will be very positive. All the little issues in Model 3 have been detected and fixed. Model Y will have very high quality right off the line.
China production will be very positive. Much higher margin.
Larger production scale tend to increase margin.
Higher oil price is coming, which should be very positive for EV demand. Oil demand is going up. China continues to sell 20 million gasoline vehicles a year, those are new purchase, not to replace old vehicles. Oil exploration activity has been off cliff for a while.
FSD features will increase vehicle demand and the feature take rate.
I will stay bullish until we join S&P, then I will re-exam the situation. I won't sell my shares until they hit $8k.
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OT, secret's out, that would be me. Makes sense, half way to Thunderbay. I bet that town of 1,600 doesn't know what a Supercharger is yet. Too bad my Model 3 can't be imported to Canada so I need another someday.
RFernatt
Solar/EV Owner/Enthusiast
I need to update this, but it's still appropriate for the festive mood. So, Merry Christmas fellow TMC'ers and here is Santa Elon to the tune of Santa Baby.
We can compare his chart after Short Interest is released at 4PM. Assuming correct, short aren't covering
StealthP3D
Well-Known Member
humbaba
sleeping until $7000
I'll be looking at the official short interest figures, just not bothering to compare them with @ihors3 -- I've done that enough already to know that his are detached from reality.
To all the folks on here who have been laughed at and ridiculed by many for their investment and conviction in Tesla. It’s been a rough year but cheers to all of us.
play your cards right. Things don’t go up and up. Consider taking profits and lowering risk when you feel like it’s silly.
play your cards right. Things don’t go up and up. Consider taking profits and lowering risk when you feel like it’s silly.
Fact Checking
Well-Known Member
Short interest released today will be the December 13 (Friday) short interest at close, when TSLA closed on $358.39.
The next trading day on the 16th (Monday) was the big breakout to $380 levels.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Fact Checking
Well-Known Member
Poor Jonas, he had a couple hours of fun. Time to finish this Christmas off right though.
Intraday high at 423.98: It looks like someone is buying a lot of TSLA for Christmas...
⚡️ELECTROMAN⚡️
Village Idiot
Really? I just thought there had to be more to it than that.
Meh... To quote a classic: we're gonna win so much we will get tired of winning.New ATH.
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