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Guys I thought the consensus was to HODL, not to CHARGE! 
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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- elon is an ass
Thanks! I have it printed and on the wall
Also, just realized we were at $255 prior to Q3 ER. That seems like a lifetime ago!
HankLloydRight
No Roads
You're jumping to conclusions!
First, if they were preparing some sort of changes to the S+X pages, why would the pages for the cars that already exist need to change?
Second, Hanlon's Razor definitely applies here: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
Third, If you look at the code in any browser inspector, there's a javascript error preventing the pages from rendering correctly. (see screenshot below).
Finally, whoever pushed the change to production without testing it first, corrected their error, as the pages are now properly loading (the developer was captured in the image below).
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WentOffGrid
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Today's rise:
Exuberance around the large number of earnings beats? People flush with cash from Apple etc. looking for more wins? Somebody knows something? Gains we would have seen last week but for the virus concerns and are coming back because it's looking like it's not a huge deal?
An imminent Model Y delivery date would add lots of fire, and surely a date for feature complete FSD would do the same.
It's just a bonus that they are celebrating every bit of bad news about the Coronavirus. Hoping for more death and misery because it might hurt a company they don't like. Really awful.
Exuberance around the large number of earnings beats? People flush with cash from Apple etc. looking for more wins? Somebody knows something? Gains we would have seen last week but for the virus concerns and are coming back because it's looking like it's not a huge deal?
An imminent Model Y delivery date would add lots of fire, and surely a date for feature complete FSD would do the same.
They got high on their own supply. I keep an eye on them and today the narrative is that Tesla is crazy for building a Euro factory because only 8k cars have sold in Europe this year or something. They still believe that there is no demand for Tesla vehicles and that Q1 will be another disaster. On top of that they still harp on the idea that this is all some big fraud, accounting fraud, warranty fraud (claiming that huge amounts of repairs were tagged as good will) etc. That one is especially crazy because if Elon is a fraud, wouldn't he have cashed out when SP hit nearly $600? Does a fraud spend so much energy on other companies?
It's just a bonus that they are celebrating every bit of bad news about the Coronavirus. Hoping for more death and misery because it might hurt a company they don't like. Really awful.
We don't just want to win. We want to brake them. Salt the earth so bad that nobody will ever short Tesla again.Guys I thought the consensus was to HODL, not to CHARGE!
A year or so from now it's not impossible that we might see a Starlink launch in the morning, a Grand Opening in Las Vegas of the first real Boring Company project early afternoon, topped off by a earnings report and call. Elon will need a faster private jet to beat thatTrifecta! Perhaps a few on here will be following along in their own to attend all three.
While waiting for the ER, I came across this Motortrend article about Ford's agreement with Rivian to produce the first pure EV Lincoln SUV. It is illustrative of the challenges - pointed out frequently by forum members - that traditional automakers face in the BEV transition. What left my mouth slightly agape was this explanation of the respective contributions of Ford and Rivian under their agreement (perhaps not news to others here):
This situation brings to mind the late Roman Empire as new enemies challenged imperial authority all along her periphery. Instead of responding with vigor and alacrity, the leadership in Rome decided to supplant tangible authority with abstract control by signing treaties with local warlords who agreed to defend territory from the barbarians in the name of Rome and under her nominal control. By following this policy of minimizing short-term pain, the Empire soon signed itself out of existence.
Not sure where Tesla fits in this analogy - maybe the Huns? And I suppose the Empire kept on trucking for a while longer in the East in the form of the Byzantines (maybe they're VW?).
Anyhow, antiquity aside, I can't believe how blindly these traditional OEMs seem to be marching to their own irrelevance.
Under the agreement, Rivian's chassis provides a full electric powertrain with battery pack, electric motors, suspension, axles, and other key components. Ford will design the entire "top hat"—or body and cabin—of the vehicle, but must ensure the electronic control unit, infotainment systems, and other electronics can play nice with Rivian's electrical architecture.
So the main value-add that Ford doesn't relinquish to Rivian looks to be software? But only software for the components in the "top hat". At least their sterling reputation as a nimble and innovative software powerhouse augurs success here...
This situation brings to mind the late Roman Empire as new enemies challenged imperial authority all along her periphery. Instead of responding with vigor and alacrity, the leadership in Rome decided to supplant tangible authority with abstract control by signing treaties with local warlords who agreed to defend territory from the barbarians in the name of Rome and under her nominal control. By following this policy of minimizing short-term pain, the Empire soon signed itself out of existence.
Not sure where Tesla fits in this analogy - maybe the Huns? And I suppose the Empire kept on trucking for a while longer in the East in the form of the Byzantines (maybe they're VW?).
Anyhow, antiquity aside, I can't believe how blindly these traditional OEMs seem to be marching to their own irrelevance.
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The retail shorts firmly believe Tesla is all a fraud, a scam and about to be revealed that all those factories are potemkin villages. They really believe their delusions and are gambling their entire assets thinking they are going to make a killing off of our complete humiliation.
Edit: BTW they are NutF@%&ing lunatics! Tesla go Bragh™
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Guid Gawd, mon! What happened to her stomach?
LN1_Casey
Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus
Me for the next six hours:
Don't give me that, you're over there on the West coast. Us EU people are waiting until late evening before the results even will hit, let alone the analysis after. I got work in the morning that I'm contractually obliged to return to.
Looks like FOMO by the longs, or FOB* by the shorts.Guys I thought the consensus was to HODL, not to CHARGE!
*Fear Of Bankruptcy
Me for the next six hours:
I play Spot the Tesla from my window.
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I'm so torn.... TSLA makes me a lot of money.... but on the other hand I can't get a ****ing EV charging spot at work anymore cuz there are so many EVs now
Shorts have about 4 hours to cover before Armageddon
StealthP3D
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No, those things are necessary and to be expected if TSLA's going to the Moon (or Mars). The fact that there are so many media people and analysts still uncapitulated means we are still at the beginning or middle of TSLA's great rise from the ashes.
This reminds me of the observation that economists have successfully predicted 5 out of the last 3 recessions.
Instead of "Body by Fisher", it will be "Body by Ford".
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