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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Aren’t you excited then? Believe you sold all your TSLA hoping for further drop? Be careful as there usually starts to be a divergence between stronger companies and weaker companies the deeper you head down market dips.
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Okay, I dealing with a lot of crises at the moment. They have come in this sequence.
What's next? Actual zombies?
- Brexit - 3 years and hasn't really happened yet
- Climate change
- Covid
- TSLA halving in price
- Panic shopping fallout
- Karen leaving
- FC leaving
What's next? Actual zombies?
Thank you for explanation, it looks like the short exempt may have an additional source, if a broker-dealer choses to check that box voluntarily, looks like to save them grief in HFT.
Factual - yes, but i doubt this act of self-marking is prevalent and meaningful, as we are observing a correlation that this % spikes with atypically down days.
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
If I am interpreting it correctly, The S&P made it for 4 minutes, the DOW made it to 7 minutes, and the NASDAQ got all the way to 32 minutes before hitting limit down.
EDIT Looks like it will be a good day to buy !
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anthonyj
Stonks
Money rotation into America 2.0 tech stocks
If deal is reached, it will flip quicker than you blink.
Tbh I don’t expect Tesla to crash in multiples of the market down days anymore, as it is more well positioned than others to handle this downturn.
Tesla is not depending on bailout grants or loans; thus, this package doesn’t help them as much as it does other companies. Plus, it is geographically hedged and capable of socially distanced business (via touchless deliveries).
Anyway, I hope I’m right. But to be safe, I transitioned out of shorter term calls end of last wk to be safe. Will possibly make short term plays on any dips into late Tuesday or Wednesday.
However, I expect other stocks I’ve entered into positions on recently (except maybe Google and Zoom) will dip though - including LULU, MGM and NRG.
Edit: yes, I’m not longer 100% Tesla after all these stocks have presented discounts for us....
@KarenRei and @Fact Checking, please come back.
It's really boring without you. My body is wasting away. Brain ok so far, but it needs exercise too.
It's really boring without you. My body is wasting away. Brain ok so far, but it needs exercise too.What is really disturbing is that it appears that the reason the US markets are not shut down is that major brokerages and large hedge funds are, once again, being allowed to try to get out of their 10 to 15x-leveraged, losing positions at the expense of the retail investor.
anthonyj
Stonks
I think there will be a margin call domino effect combined with delta hedging put squeeze, plus the dumb shorts that love to sell low, which is the complete opposite of what we experienced in early February. I’m expecting $1xx as the bottom. Good for opportunists, bad for leveraged gamblers
hacer
Active Member
I've been trading options for 30 years. Only once did I ever place a market order for an options contract. It was a near-expiration (few days left) SP500 index contract that had huge volume (huge for options, like nearly one trade a minute) and I still got screwed by about $10k because it didn't execute for over 2 hours, even though it was a market order. I'm certain E*trade front-ran me; they were never able to explain why a market order took over 2 hours to fill with literally thousands of trades printed between order entry and execution and they refused to compensate me. Needless to say I dropped them as a broker right away (this was in the era of dial-up). Learned my lesson and I never, ever, ever use market orders on options contracts. I very rarely use them for stock orders. Brokers and MM can't be trusted.... I got absolutely screwed last Monday when I had to quickly put in a Market order for FCAU Puts before I scrubbed into surgery, only to see them filled at SEVEN times the Bid/Ask price. The trade was supposed to cost around $20k, instead Fidelity forced it through and I was instantly down over $100k after the trade (I have never had that happen before with a Market order)! Day trading when you can't watch it is dangerous.
A worthy discussion to have.
One thing to be mindful of is that Tesla is firmly in the premium car segment. It would be good for anyone who had data about how the premium segment of new car sales has held up in previous economic shocks, to share it here.
@KarenRei and @Fact Checking, please come back.
Yes, I hope they come back both are informative, interesting and just about always factually correct.
My understanding is Karen is not banned, it is mostly a "strong disagreement" with a mod, so she is free to come back and I hope she does.
I think we all need to do more to help mods, that is posting less and using Like and Dislike more.
So if I think a post has nailed 90% of the argument, I'll give it a like and not bother attempting to add the other 10%,
I'll give many more dislikes, especially if I consider a post "narrative framing" or off topic.
I'll also try to refrain from engineering and technical type posts or look for a better thread for them.
Mostly, I'll try to ensure posts are better quality and may contain some new information...
I'm also ditching lame attempts at humour and will not use the Funny rating... I'll use Like instead.,
My suggestions, lift our game, and beg Karen to come back.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Think about how wild this week should be. To start off we have absolute peak hysteria with half the nation on complete shutdown. By the end of the week we should have a grasp of CV mortality rate.
Literally anything could happen from down another 20% to up 20%. Maybe even a more moderate version of BOTH.
I stick by my initial feeling that we have an unprecedented amount of cash already on the sidelines and not even in bonds. Don't want to mention too much stuff outside the CV thread, but IF we see a slower spread than predicted and sharply lower mortality, this cash will flood back in an instant. Computers don't wait and see when FOMO sets in.
There is no way Warren Buffett didn't spend the weekend working on buying into Boeing and the like. Berkshire will halve their cash pile before April is out, perhaps sooner.
Literally anything could happen from down another 20% to up 20%. Maybe even a more moderate version of BOTH.
I stick by my initial feeling that we have an unprecedented amount of cash already on the sidelines and not even in bonds. Don't want to mention too much stuff outside the CV thread, but IF we see a slower spread than predicted and sharply lower mortality, this cash will flood back in an instant. Computers don't wait and see when FOMO sets in.
There is no way Warren Buffett didn't spend the weekend working on buying into Boeing and the like. Berkshire will halve their cash pile before April is out, perhaps sooner.
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$100’s would be craazy to me. I wouldn’t be surprised at 200’s, but I was personally thinking low 300’s
Also a good amount of the Tesla customer pool are in the group that can work from home and thus are not part of the groups experiencing the income loss right now.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Don't forget....TSLA is a wildly popular retail stock. People are being forced to sit at home and stare at this buying opportunity.
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