Turn that ship heading to Europe around!
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Turn that ship heading to Europe around!
To be fair, it’s not all that clear to me how far Tesla’s active involvement extends in this.Meanwhile, big energy has now been informed that they are just as dead as big auto.
Tesla launches its UK Energy Plan, hints at upcoming Virtual Power Plant project
Octopus Energy broke down the key benefits of the Tesla Energy Plan. They are listed below.
In May 2020, Tesla filed to become a full-blown energy provider in the UK. The Tesla Energy Plan it released in conjunction with Octopus Energy may be the first fruits of that application.
- Power your home and EV with 100% clean energy
- Reduce your electricity bills
- Support the grid when it needs it most
- Reduce reliance on the grid
- Protect your home from power cuts
- Be part of Tesla’s first UK Virtual Power Plant
- Receive introductory offers
To be fair, it’s not all that clear to me how far Tesla’s active involvement extends in this.
This is an Octopus Energy tariff. I’m one of their customers (not on this tariff, I don’t qualify as I live in a flat, so no solar), and they’ve had 100% green energy plans since the beginning — which is the reason we switched to them; well, that and the fact they have some of the lowest tariffs on the market — and they’ve also been promoting Tesla for a couple of years.
Now, in the UK things are a bit different than in other parts of the world: the energy supplier that a domestic consumer signs a supply contract with is not the actual electricity producer; rather, each supplier buys the electricity wholesale and sells it to the domestic customers at a set tariff. But the actual, physical supply (connection to the grid) is provided by the National Grid. Which makes switching easy: you just pay for your electricity to a different company, but there’s no physical change.
And so I’m curious as to whether Tesla is actively contributing (logistics, possibly?) to this new tariff, or it’s simply Octopus running the numbers and concluding that it makes sense from a business perspective to offer this bundle. It’s definitely good for Tesla in that it incentivises sales of the solar retrofit and Powerwall products, but other than that, does Tesla do anything?
With the numerous market Tesla is addressing, I have no hesitation to say I give a 95% probability of TSLA reaching a 2T market cap by 2030. However 40T is over the Golden Goose modelling. It’s the All others go bankrupt Model.
To be fair, it’s not all that clear to me how far Tesla’s active involvement extends in this.
This is an Octopus Energy tariff. I’m one of their customers (not on this tariff, I don’t qualify as I live in a flat, so no solar), and they’ve had 100% green energy plans since the beginning — which is the reason we switched to them; well, that and the fact they have some of the lowest tariffs on the market — and they’ve also been promoting Tesla for a couple of years.
Now, in the UK things are a bit different than in other parts of the world: the energy supplier that a domestic consumer signs a supply contract with is not the actual electricity producer; rather, each supplier buys the electricity wholesale and sells it to the domestic customers at a set tariff. But the actual, physical supply (connection to the grid) is provided by the National Grid. Which makes switching easy: you just pay for your electricity to a different company, but there’s no physical change.
And so I’m curious as to whether Tesla is actively contributing (logistics, possibly?) to this new tariff, or it’s simply Octopus running the numbers and concluding that it makes sense from a business perspective to offer this bundle. It’s definitely good for Tesla in that it incentivises sales of the solar retrofit and Powerwall products, but other than that, does Tesla do anything?
yep it’s up now in the UK I have been on this for 3 weeks.
To be fair, it’s not all that clear to me how far Tesla’s active involvement extends in this.
This is an Octopus Energy tariff. I’m one of their customers (not on this tariff, I don’t qualify as I live in a flat, so no solar), and they’ve had 100% green energy plans since the beginning — which is the reason we switched to them; well, that and the fact they have some of the lowest tariffs on the market — and they’ve also been promoting Tesla for a couple of years.
Now, in the UK things are a bit different than in other parts of the world: the energy supplier that a domestic consumer signs a supply contract with is not the actual electricity producer; rather, each supplier buys the electricity wholesale and sells it to the domestic customers at a set tariff. But the actual, physical supply (connection to the grid) is provided by the National Grid. Which makes switching easy: you just pay for your electricity to a different company, but there’s no physical change.
And so I’m curious as to whether Tesla is actively contributing (logistics, possibly?) to this new tariff, or it’s simply Octopus running the numbers and concluding that it makes sense from a business perspective to offer this bundle. It’s definitely good for Tesla in that it incentivises sales of the solar retrofit and Powerwall products, but other than that, does Tesla do anything?
Edit to add: This tariff seems to have been available for at least one year now, but Tesla only applied for certification as an energy utility this summer, so this would confirm that it’s run by Octopus, while Tesla might contribute on the technical side (Powerwall live data, etc.).
I'm not sure if it matters so much in the UK, but a powerwall also provides backup power in the event of outages. Worth factoring in.Did you already have solar & powerwall installed?
Apart from the great environmental reasons (!) I'm struggling to find the cost benefit over a 10 year period, as it would save me around £800 per year and cost around £11-13k to get solar and a powerwall. It'd be great to hear your thoughts on the cost side?? Cheers!
Cost a ton more? Seriously? The PowerWall is $7K for 13.5 kWh. Or $39K for 75 kWh. For 20% more you could have a whole LR AWD car around a battery that size. (Somehow I think all the Model 3 except the battery is worth more than $8K.)
The biggest problem with such a "crazy" valuation is that for Tesla to become that large it will have run into anti-trust issues far before the 40T point. There are plenty of people that have pitch forks ready for Amazon today and they aren't anywhere close to that large.
I like to track delivery ships. Does anyone know the name of the ship from Shanghai leaving for Europe?Turn that ship heading to Europe around!
With the numerous market Tesla is addressing, I have no hesitation to say I give a 95% probability of TSLA reaching a 2T market cap by 2030. However 40T is over the Golden Goose modelling.
20 million units is fine, but how does Tesla get to a 40 trillion dollar valuation without being completely dominant in several industries? Am I missing the path to that valuation?That concern I don't really get...
Elons most optimistic predictions for vehicle production in 2030 are 20 million units.
That's still less than 1/4 of the annual new car market.
Sub-25% market share is not a monopoly in any sense of the word, let alone the legal one.
The biggest problem with such a "crazy" valuation is that for Tesla to become that large it will have run into anti-trust issues far before the 40T point. There are plenty of people that have pitch forks ready for Amazon today and they aren't anywhere close to that large.
20 million units is fine, but how does Tesla get to a 40 trillion dollar valuation without being completely dominant in several industries? Am I missing the path to that valuation?
There are plenty of people that have pitch forks ready for Amazon today and they aren't anywhere close to that large.