Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[wnorris]

Fund manager loses job shorting Tesla. Hopefully this starts a trend.

Without a Clunie – the fund manager who shorted Tesla is shown the door - Master Investor

"Over the last three years it has been the worst performing of the 108 funds in the Targeted Absolute Return sector with a loss of 23.7%, which is well below its objective of generating positive absolute returns over a rolling three year period. Shorting Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) and Scottish Mortgage (LON:SMT), two of the year’s best performing stocks, didn’t exactly help, with assets under management shrinking from £1.2bn to £165m over the last 12 months. "

 

[Tslynk67]

Yesterday pre-pre-market volume was low, today it hardly has a pulse, never seen it so low.

The calm before the storm, I guess.

 

[Tes La Ferrari]

Yesterday pre-pre-market volume was low, today it hardly has a pulse, never seen it so low.

The calm before the storm, I guess.

Can’t believe only 892 shares have traded hands, hours into European market opening.

Has volume ever been this low?

 

[strago13]

Can’t believe only 892 shares have traded hands, hours into European market opening.

Has volume ever been this low?

I am showing 25,050 as of this writing. Still very, very low.

Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Pre-Market Quotes

 

[Tslynk67]

Can’t believe only 892 shares have traded hands, hours into European market opening.

Has volume ever been this low?

I am showing 25,050 as of this writing. Still very, very low.

Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Pre-Market Quotes

So the question is, are people buying, but nobody's selling, or is no body selling...

If you see what I mean

 

[Tes La Ferrari]

I am showing 25,050 as of this writing. Still very, very low.

Tesla, Inc. Common Stock (TSLA) Pre-Market Quotes

Yours is probably more accurate, as I’ve never seen volume that low, but here’s what I’m seeing on the Apple stocks app:

 

[Tslynk67]

Yours is probably more accurate, as I’ve never seen volume that low, but here’s what I’m seeing on the Apple stocks app:

strago was referring to pre-market NASDAQ volume, methinks, which is now 26k shares, which is incredibly low.

 

[JBRR]

https://twitter.com/hanseric/status/1338795891747119104?s=20

"
The new EU Battery Regulation is the most progressive product legislation in the world. But what does it actually mean for the battery value chain? A new analysis is available for subscribers of CES Online. http://circularenergystorage.com Summary in this (long) thread. 1/13
"

 

[ByeByeJohnny]

I have enough shares that I could move the ticker for a $600 billion company all by myself. Wouldn't last more than a few seconds but still.

 

[jw934]

SPY and IVV haven't updated their data yet. I wonder when they do that... (They only have ~8 hours left to make the updated data available while staying in compliance with IRS regulations.)

SPY did not buy any $TSLA yesterday. Not sure about the others. https://twitter.com/meckimac/status/1338804923669094400?s=20

 

[Tslynk67]

https://twitter.com/hanseric/status/1338795891747119104?s=20

"
The new EU Battery Regulation is the most progressive product legislation in the world. But what does it actually mean for the battery value chain? A new analysis is available for subscribers of CES Online. http://circularenergystorage.com Summary in this (long) thread. 1/13
"

Hey, my wife worked on this legislation

 

[vikings123]

Question for the short term option traders out there:

Is the market giving us one last opportunity to get in? Either the market thinks the S&P inclusion will be a nothing burger or it is completely underestimating the potential for a squeeze. I still believe the benchmark funds are waiting to see what happens to the stock price before they jump in. The index funds OTOH will need to hit that buy button and all indications are that will start soon as tomorrow.

If IV continues to drop today I might nibble a bit more than I already have, this is too much fun not to partake . Not advice.

 

[Runarbt]

Not sure if this has been posted yet?

AIV - which Tesla replaced in S&P500 drops 70% i pre-market.

Either this is a huge buying opportunity - or it indicates Tesla WILL rocket way higher by friday.

Or both

Ref:

 

[vikings123]

Not sure if this has been posted yet?

AIV - which Tesla replaced in S&P500 drops 70% i pre-market.

Either this is a huge buying opportunity - or it indicates Tesla WILL rocket way higher by friday.

Or both

Ref:

nice try

Aimco Completes Separation of Apartment Income REIT Corp.

 

[chrsk]

Not sure if this has been posted yet?

AIV - which Tesla replaced in S&P500 drops 70% i pre-market.

Either this is a huge buying opportunity - or it indicates Tesla WILL rocket way higher by friday.

Or both

Ref:

Well, this might be the case

Aimco Completes Separation of Apartment Income REIT Corp..

 

[jbcarioca]

...
This chart is produced from actual data, given some assumptions.

Often I find your contributions valuable. However, carelessness with consequential words and neglect of justification for your opinions, coupled with a seeming casual approach to information usage detracts from the value. This post, for example, could be useful were it based on fact but we have no way to know. Please adopt some discipline because quite a few of su want to be able to rely on your work.Right now we cannot.

Other people have already commented on the `...given some assumptions...` part.
`actual data` is meaningless. Completely false charts are made of actual data. The word `data` does not necessarily imply truth.
When a large part of ones life has been derived from statistical analysis and information management ones learns to be very careful about rules of evidence. Failing to do so invariably ends out with fallacies displayed as fact. Current US politics is instructive in this regard. Forgive me for belaboring this point, but I do, like many of us, want to be able to rely on your work.
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• 1Facts and statistics collected together for reference or analysis.
  
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     ‘The roots of relativism lie not in empirical data but in certain epistemological and metaphysical preconceptions.’`
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[Runarbt]

nice try

Aimco Completes Separation of Apartment Income REIT Corp.

Ah! Thank you for the save!!

I was planning to buy some calls, to take advantage of an extreme overreaction! Not so much now.

 

[mrdoubleb]

Just a quick service announcement... after 2-3 years of teasing a store in Hungary, Tesla started hiring for their Budapest location. Finally, Hungarian Tesla owners won't need to drive (or get a trailer to get transported to) to Austria for service.

About the size of the market here:

• Country of 10 million people
• 3,5-ish million passenger cars in circulation
• 11k EVs and 13k hybrids in the fleet
• 150k-ish new car sales per year; majority is corporate fleets; BMW is around 900 cars per year for example
• 2k BEV + 1k PHEV sold last year, but now there is a more generous government incentive
• Tesla falls outside the threshold of the incentive (grant of 7k EUR for up to 31k retail price; grant of 1.4k EUR for 31k-42k retail price. Cheapest Model 3 is 52k EUR gross)

 

[OrthoSurg]

My wife is on a financial group on her FB, that’s what she read this morning. Some post written by another member about his December stocks picks... The last paragraph made my eyes bleed

 

[Causalien]

My wife is on a financial group on her FB, that’s what she read this morning. Some post written by another member about his December stocks picks... The last paragraph made my eyes bleed

Your wife's reading /r/wsb