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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Just realized the reason I can’t get info on the German market at this time is because Germany doesn’t do daylight savings so now Germany and the US premarket open at the same time. Sigh. It’s been really confusing and occasionally scary when the previous days change is still up when I’m expecting the next days trading to start.
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I just realize that VW is doing the classic smearing campaign, amplify and spread bad news “VIOLENT CRASH” to tell uninformed public about it’s a danger to drive a Tesla with AutoPilot. This will kill both Tesla sales and its maturing FSD. The high Tesla stock price provides a very solid capital of free cash flow to build more Gigafactories for EV and best performance lowest price 4680 battery. That’s why VW did a lot of bragging during its Power Day and boosting its stock price to become the most valued company in Europe. It is playing the Tesla way. It is lucky that Benzinga EV Insights wrote a very informative article on this latest accident
This news by Benzinga EV Insights listed on Yahoo that shows the road intersection map as seen by FSD with a silver vehicle and a big red dot next to its R. rear tire. I do not own a Tesla with FSD so if somebody use Tesla FSD can tell me what’s the big red dot is? I like to know why it did not show the patrol car? The way this news is written look like a normal and informative report that shows
“Vehicles using the driver assist feature Autopilot have been shown to be safer overall than Teslas not using the system.” Only this Benzinga.com has this informative line, all others give impression that Tesla Auto Pilot is defective and Tesla has been warned to test its FSD using public roads instead of dedicated area. I prefer to use products that are tested with real use in real situations, not by a specific designed test area that has little resemblance to the real situation. This accident also happened so early in the morning 1:10AM. The young 22 yr old driver could be sleepy and/or his model Y was not loaded with beta 8.2
If you click on the below Twitter link, click on left picture it will show larger picture of a 2-way street, that is much smaller than the other side with 4 lanes/2 lane/each direction. The citation was for failure to move over, means to go over the other lane/direction to pass the police car. The driver failed to take control, may be sleepy., and Driving With Suspended License (DWSL) .
You can see the tweet by Tesla Tech @TeslaTech7 “Autopilot is cruise control +. You have to pay attention, it doesn’t pretend to be 100% autonomous. You acknowledge you are responsible and in control. It will protect you more than not, but cannot handle all situations. I use it all the time, and it’s amazing 99% of the time.”
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Are you wondering that there are only news about Tesla FSD testing using the real roads and none from any other competitors? This means Tesla is way ahead of others in FSD and robotaxis testing.
Tesla Driving On Autopilot Crashes Into Michigan State Police Vehicle
This is the news from CNBC.com titled Tesla faces 2nd NHTSA probe In Michigan this month. The latest crash in a string of accidents involving a Tesla EV operating in Autopilot hits police car in Michigan. All the strong words to highlight its opponent’s bad news. This CNBC news will tell you all about past Tesla accidents with older version of Autopilot. The video at the end is very helpful in explaining the story.
Tesla faces second NHTSA probe in Michigan this month
So hang on tight dear Tesla comrades.
I just realize that VW is doing the classic smearing campaign, amplify and spread bad news “VIOLENT CRASH” to tell uninformed public about it’s a danger to drive a Tesla with AutoPilot. This will kill both Tesla sales and its maturing FSD. The high Tesla stock price provides a very solid capital of free cash flow to build more Gigafactories for EV and best performance lowest price 4680 battery. That’s why VW did a lot of bragging during its Power Day and boosting its stock price to become the most valued company in Europe. It is playing the Tesla way. It is lucky that Benzinga EV Insights wrote a very informative article on this latest accident
This news by Benzinga EV Insights listed on Yahoo that shows the road intersection map as seen by FSD with a silver vehicle and a big red dot next to its R. rear tire. I do not own a Tesla with FSD so if somebody use Tesla FSD can tell me what’s the big red dot is? I like to know why it did not show the patrol car? The way this news is written look like a normal and informative report that shows
“Vehicles using the driver assist feature Autopilot have been shown to be safer overall than Teslas not using the system.” Only this Benzinga.com has this informative line, all others give impression that Tesla Auto Pilot is defective and Tesla has been warned to test its FSD using public roads instead of dedicated area. I prefer to use products that are tested with real use in real situations, not by a specific designed test area that has little resemblance to the real situation. This accident also happened so early in the morning 1:10AM. The young 22 yr old driver could be sleepy and/or his model Y was not loaded with beta 8.2
If you click on the below Twitter link, click on left picture it will show larger picture of a 2-way street, that is much smaller than the other side with 4 lanes/2 lane/each direction. The citation was for failure to move over, means to go over the other lane/direction to pass the police car. The driver failed to take control, may be sleepy., and Driving With Suspended License (DWSL) .
You can see the tweet by Tesla Tech @TeslaTech7 “Autopilot is cruise control +. You have to pay attention, it doesn’t pretend to be 100% autonomous. You acknowledge you are responsible and in control. It will protect you more than not, but cannot handle all situations. I use it all the time, and it’s amazing 99% of the time.”
?
Are you wondering that there are only news about Tesla FSD testing using the real roads and none from any other competitors? This means Tesla is way ahead of others in FSD and robotaxis testing.
Tesla Driving On Autopilot Crashes Into Michigan State Police Vehicle
This is the news from CNBC.com titled Tesla faces 2nd NHTSA probe In Michigan this month. The latest crash in a string of accidents involving a Tesla EV operating in Autopilot hits police car in Michigan. All the strong words to highlight its opponent’s bad news. This CNBC news will tell you all about past Tesla accidents with older version of Autopilot. The video at the end is very helpful in explaining the story.
Tesla faces second NHTSA probe in Michigan this month
So hang on tight dear Tesla comrades.
RobStark
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Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
Very informative, thanks for these updates Rob!
Would be great if someone (not saying you, of course) would do tables that in addition to number of vehicles showed totalt value of sales in USD/RMB.
Are we no longer informed if a mod deletes our posts after the forum upgrade?
I can't prove it, but his $50 PT is way up from the $19 PT he had on the stock on 2019 (pre-split price), if one followed the same logic you'd imagine he was shorting back when we were trading at ~$40 pre-split, so he'd be cleaned-out by now
In any case, his arguments on demand have no logic, and he surely knows this, I can't imagine he'd pony-up his own money based on that
To be precise, if you're clueless on Tesla, turn on CNBS and see Gordo shouting about ID3 outselling M3 in Norway for January, it seems pretty convincing, it's only when you ave that deeper understanding of things that you know it to be nonsense. Might inspire the more clueless to short the stock or at least hold-off buying it
Of course, anyone making investment decisions based on any mainstream media coverage, without further due-diligence, is likely to lose their money
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Here is a sample of seekingalpha.com, the most concentrated hub of Tesla shorts/writers, also a PARTNER of CNBC.com
This is about what Dr. Lomborg, he has been speaking and writing about climate science for almost 20 years, said about electric vehicles in a recent interview:
Quote “So the reality is that these cars will typically, over their lifetime, cut maybe 10 tons of CO2. Now, to most people that doesn't mean anything. But actually, on the standard marketplaces for CO2 emissions in the U.S, you could cut a similar amount for $60 right now. So spending $7,500 on subsidies to get that amount over even ten years is a really bad idea”. So you can cut 10 tons of CO2 for $60 ? Elon can give $100M to anyone to remove/suck CO2 from our atmosphere in a recent tweet/news.
Bjorn Lomborg says subsidies for electric cars are "really bad".
Read the Tesla shorts’ comments in this article:
I had to post our Tesla hot video using beta 8.2 to educate/fight back their garbage
Tesla's (TSLA) Autopilot lands in the spotlight again
This is about what Dr. Lomborg, he has been speaking and writing about climate science for almost 20 years, said about electric vehicles in a recent interview:
Quote “So the reality is that these cars will typically, over their lifetime, cut maybe 10 tons of CO2. Now, to most people that doesn't mean anything. But actually, on the standard marketplaces for CO2 emissions in the U.S, you could cut a similar amount for $60 right now. So spending $7,500 on subsidies to get that amount over even ten years is a really bad idea”. So you can cut 10 tons of CO2 for $60 ? Elon can give $100M to anyone to remove/suck CO2 from our atmosphere in a recent tweet/news.
Bjorn Lomborg says subsidies for electric cars are "really bad".
Read the Tesla shorts’ comments in this article:
I had to post our Tesla hot video using beta 8.2 to educate/fight back their garbage
Tesla's (TSLA) Autopilot lands in the spotlight again
That's true. One of my posts was removed without letting me know.
We have direct information from the environmental Minister about the timeline for Giga Berlin permit approval from his latest committee meeting.
People who have direct responsibility talked
There is no need to rely on media reports in that respect
There is a 2nd storm of “Autopilot Tesla crash into police/patrol car” all over again on Yahoo
Tesla down -$16.7 -2.35% to $685 pre-market 4.48 AM ET
Quote: “Before this week, NHTSA previously launched at least 14 SCI teams following Tesla crashes that were suspected of being tied to its Autopilot driver assistance system. The agency has taken no action as a result of those probes.” It does not citing the result of the past probes. No action was taken, does it mean it’s OK for Tesla to improve/test its life-saving FSD SW using the real roads instead of simulated test track?
UPDATE 1-U.S. investigating suspected Autopilot Tesla crash into police vehicle
Tesla down -$16.7 -2.35% to $685 pre-market 4.48 AM ET
Quote: “Before this week, NHTSA previously launched at least 14 SCI teams following Tesla crashes that were suspected of being tied to its Autopilot driver assistance system. The agency has taken no action as a result of those probes.” It does not citing the result of the past probes. No action was taken, does it mean it’s OK for Tesla to improve/test its life-saving FSD SW using the real roads instead of simulated test track?
UPDATE 1-U.S. investigating suspected Autopilot Tesla crash into police vehicle
Not quite, Frankfurt opens 8:00 CET, US pre-pre-markets are one hour later...
This is the link you want: Tradegate Exchange
Two key points, Bjørn Lomborg is one of the most prolific climate-change deniers Bjørn Lomborg, just a scientist with a different opinion?
Secondly, did he also mention the subsidies that fossil-fuels receive in the US? Fact Sheet | Fossil Fuel Subsidies: A Closer Look at Tax Breaks and Societal Costs | White Papers | EESI
You know, with the amount of money resting on $TSLA shorting and options trading, would be quite advantageous for some to buy a Tesla and have a someone in desperate need of cash, drive it into a police car, or fire-truck, etc. Not so fast as to hurt anyone, of course, but enough to make headlines
Given the historically documented tactics of the short-and-distort criminals, I wouldn't put it past them.
I did not read the whole article, so I cannot answer your 2nd question. You seem to have great knowlegde/info
You mention another important scheme that I forgot to post. It's been used often. Thanks
No, just 2 minutes with Google
Maybe already discussed here after yesterday (haven't read all posts since yesterday), but might this be the consequence of VW looking at Tesla's future structural batterypack?
VW thinking: good idea of Tesla.
We make it honeycomb, so that prismatic cells will fit snugly in the honeycomb.
Cannot get more structural battery density than that I think.
Mods: if too much OT than just delete, but it could be something that will affect SP's.
RobStark
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Government cuts electric car grant from £3000 to £2500 | Autocar
Electric cars costing more than £35,000 will now no longer be eligible for the incentive
Model 3 starts at 40k GBP.
Government cuts electric car grant from £3000 to £2500 | Autocar
Electric cars costing more than £35,000 will now no longer be eligible for the incentivewww.autocar.co.uk
Model 3 starts at 40k GBP.
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