I used to attend CES every year in the Microsoft booth for 5 years in a row. Nearly every year I received the flu a few days later. I hope everyone who attended enjoyed their Tesla rides and did NOT get sick! Free advertising!
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Not how it works. Ask me how I know. The short answer is that it just gets us there faster. More processing power, bigger memory footprint, unbounding critical bottlenecks for the stack. Watch @DaveT interview James; he gets it. Or go very deep with Lex and Jim:
That doesn’t line up at all with this story.
Posting a link to an NYT article without any comment is not adding anything to the conversation and most of us have an aversion to the things they post.
Most likely the article has something in it that puts Tesla into an inferior light.
If not, then great, but please let us know!
dhanson865
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keep in mind this was with one station of 3 closed, and only 25% of normal traffic for the event.
CES attendance down more than 75%, organizers say
The omicron variant of COVID-19 was believed to be the reason less than a quarter of the usual CES attendance was in Las Vegas for the shortened three-day tech show.
www.reviewjournal.com
Assuming they averaged 2 people per car, a 9 passenger vehicle might have the capacity to do ~12,000 people per hour with the same number of trips if there aren't other bottlenecks to scaling.
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Discoducky, you are perfect example of a Tesla fanboy with a closed mind in this statement. I too have found that stories in the NYT, the WP and LAT have shown shocking levels of prejudice and stupid anti-Tesla screeds, but this story is actually quite positive about Tesla and its approach to auto manufacturing. The author gets it!
It seems utterly and completely positive in tone and thesis. Way down at the end it BRIEFLY mentions quality control issues that wouldn’t perhaps be the ones I would underline. But I mean BRIEFLY. The other 99.9999 percent basically says what we all know at this point, which is the past 4Q’s hammer home the fact that many decisions Elon made that drew criticism, such as taking much of his supply chain in-house, and focussing on the digital side of automating (and keeping even that part of the design lean and elegant), have been fully vindicated and legacy automakers totally blew it and are desperately playing catch-up.
It’s not a massive tome of an article, I didn’t think it needed summation, sorry.
Release note is the same as 10.8 except they took away "Expanded use of regenerative braking in AP down to 0mph..."
Same release notes as 10.8 that came out 2 weeks ago. The only thing new with fsd is the resetting of strikes. The bigger deal in this release is the fixing of the HVAC
One more point to consider: Dojo is supposed to be ready this year. I would really like to see Dojo’s increase in training speed translate to bigger improvements on each FSD Beta release (as a FSD Beta tester who has yet to have a zero intervention drive). My guess is we won’t find out if HW3 is good enough until Dojo has been online for 6-9 months.
Capitalism fixes this problem where a sole source dictates a price in two ways. One is that the maximum profit us certainly not made by charging vs the value of the most wealthy persons time. The other is of course price competition. Tesla finally could make up a better pricing structure that maximizes revenue by splitting commercial and personal use. I have the money to buy FSD and absolutely would not at $20,000. That represents lost revenue. And I certainly am not alone.
That is how it should go from both a commercial point of view, in view of the mission (ICE is replaced quicker, less energy is wasted if fewer cars crash), and in view of peoples happiness (fewer people hurt/killed) in accidents.
photoshop had two versions. An expensive version with CMYK for print shops and a cheap one without for regular users. The expensive FSD version could have features for Uber/robotaxi use, such as dispatching, easier customer location (like Apple AirTags based on the location of the customers phone), billing, unlimited annual miles per year etc. For consumers there could be 2 tiers depending on miles driven.
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Nah. The NYT has been a Tesla cesspool for many years now. Filled with blatant lies. Not sure who this Jack Ewing guy is, but that article was a breath of fresh air, totally uncharacteristic for the NYT Tesla coverage. Just like @Discoducky, I generally ignore NYT Tesla pieces because they're just garbage. This one was different.
Thanks for pointing out that this article was worth reading, if not for any actual new information, then at least as a change of pace for the NYT.
Buckminster
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Tesla supercharger moat remains in place.
But the unnecessarily complicated charger network leaves everything to be desired.
But the unnecessarily complicated charger network leaves everything to be desired.
In The Netherlands we have many sayings with a lot of old wisdom in them.
One of them is: "trust arrives on foot and leaves on horseback".
Well, The New York Times has made sure that for many of us the trust has been galloping away.
Can't blame @Discoducky. The ball is in the New York Times court here.
I don’t see it about the NYT but about learning from the example. It is about the useful example.
We dismiss information at our peril. As investors we need to be reminded that information is our advantage. We should temper our justified suspicions about sources but analyze every item regardless of the source.
Most of us have been seeing slanted, prejudiced reporting for years. This is not new. I seek it all out and appreciate those that report it here. It is all data and change usually starts being visible in the data IMO.
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dhrivnak
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Actually to my pleasant surprise it is a pro-tesla article showing how they are nimble and quickly outrunning legacy auto.
Gentle push back here. Not all data is worth spending time on.
GJ and Toilet boy are prime examples.
Seeking alpha has put out so many completely wrong articles about Tesla, I would think finding the rare balanced article not worth the time.
I am sure JPMorgan would love to sell me "research" about why they have a $295 price target for Tesla....I would not waste my time reading it.
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