Thekiwi
Active Member
The thing with a FSD driverless taxi service is that it has to work essentially flawlessly from day one to be a success. It cant just be a cool tech demo.Pierre had multiple points that gave him doubts and they are reasonable.
1. Will robotaxi demand be low in the near term? Waymo's program has demonstrated that demand for driverless taxi is low when it's too geofenced + not enough early adopters. This is currently true in Phoenix Arizona. Could just be that the tech is ahead of it's time so for the near term I agree with Pierre that if FSD was solved tomorrow, it'll take awhile before we have universal acceptance. When lives are on the line, people would like to wait a few years to see real world statistics and how often accidents happen. We understand that the media eats up any Tesla's mistakes and the first FSD accident will probably end up in the supreme court in the fight against Tesla's rollout given the spectacle it'll generate. I see major risk here.
2. Will robotaxi be profitable? Pierre mentioned google fiber being expensive. Ride hailing is also expensive. Uber being a software company makes only 38% gross margins on their revenue. This is absolutely abysmal when compared to other software makers. The reason is due to high cost on insurance and customer service, taking 40% of their total revenue. So it's going to be a long road ahead to reach profitability on ride hailing robotaxies. We are expecting revenue per customer to go down due to having no driver and to compete with people who own cars. However with price going down, we should see influx in demand which is where robotaxies should make it up. Taking marketshare from Uber is easy, however would half priced robotaxies make people want to ditch their cars completely? I think yes in the distant future, but not anytime soon.
So with Pierre I believe he thinks in the short term robotaxies will be a hard business to make profitable. FSD subscription/buy in he sees are much more profitable than to deal with the expense of the ride hailing network and the potential for a near term lack in demand. Also the price of Tesla's being 35k for Tesla to produce doesn't help with that profitability equation, but a simple 15k car with 2 seats or something may change things around.
Sure its exciting to use a driverless taxi the first few times, but the moment it fails in some manner to complete the basic jobs-to-be-done primary mission to get the passenger from point a to point b, then that passenger will most likely never want to use it again and will choose an Uber/Lyft instead.