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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Lol, hedgies defending $850 now... but I suspect their real motivation is to avoid tripping the "Uptick Rule" so they can continue their manipulations tomorrow (watch the pre-Market for more shenanigans).
I suspect their next target is the 200-day moving average. Here's yesterday's MA(200):
Of course, they'll try to get this done before the Earnings letter is released (easier to 'cap' than to 'tail-chase').
And of course, hedgie's machinations won't amount to a hill of beans. One man has them out-numbered, out-gunned, and surrounded. It helps that his followers are agile, hostile, and mobile!
Cheers to the Longs!
Do you think that is coincidence? It's always good when the MMs and originators have higher margins. /s
the $240 spy earnings for 2022 could be pie in the sky.
Relying on that to determine value is questionable.
Wooloomooloo
Member
No major stock in the S&P 500 or NASDAQ for that matter has fallen by more than 10%. Is every stock being manipulated?
It's an absolute massacre today. There is red blood flowing everywhere, a true battlefield. Have I become so desensitised to volatility by HODLing TSLA for years that it doesn't even phase me one bit? I'm literally not batting an eyelid. Does that make me wise or a fool?
I think a real investor, in it for the long haul. Can’t wait to see what happens Thurs after wed shareholder meeting and Q4 report
MTL_HABS1909
Active Member
How many of them flirted with -10% MULTIPLE times only to rebound and repeat? Not bothering with you anymore. Cheers!
First Chart - PointlessThank you for information.
I was referring to these
Data Driven US Stock Market Valuation and Analysis
Simple, fundamental valuation indicators to model the current valuation of the US stock market.www.currentmarketvaluation.com
Second Chart - Value of Stock market to GDP is because Big Tech makes more profit/earnings per dollar than traditional companies and thus earnings to GDP has exploded. Nothing to see here
Third Chart - Use real S&P P/E charts/data. This is nonsense. Both of my links to disprove this
Fourth Chart - Again, S&P P/E is in value territory. You would need earnings to have a reversal to negative in a drastic way for this to mean anything...meaning you need Big Tech earnings to reverse. Nothing to show that's even remotely happening.
Fifth Chart - 10 year can and have been easily manipulated. There's no point in reading into them at all right now.
As per the counsel of many, if you are looking down field, then the buy points don’t matter too much if the fundamentals are solid. Personally Tesla dropped below our dollar averaged cost basis today (I didn’t step in until June of last year, and then steadily increased as I adjusted my goalposts to “more, sooner.”) I bought 22 more at $860 to round up to an even number. More money becomes available next week as our 401K withdrawals are only allowed once every 6 mos, and we can move money from those to IRA and purchase more. This is the only way to purchase stock in our company retirement plans. This time I plan to park a lot more money in the IRA for future purchases. My other half and I have agreed on a share total..Dipped into margin at bought 50 more at $861.....im starting to think wife is right by calling me 'dumb'.....
Considering a huge amount of the estimate comes from the Big Tech......yeah I don't see it. There's zero reason to think that and in fact, earnings have routinely come in stronger than expectations.....that why the S&P is where it's at today. To think that's suddenly going to change with no underlining reason is beyond silly to me.
good. hope he stays short. the less meat puppets in the unintentional cottage industry that has become, the better. flush ‘em out baby! reckless uncle leo can sit right next to him! it’s one thing to talk trading on the forum threads or reddit etc. it’s another to announce to the masses. begging to get tuned up.
FSD (city street) would really need to be reliable, but I don't see that happening this year after seeing how FSD Beta 10.x has iterated. I'm guessing once we hit FSD Beta v11, that will probably remain in development for the remainder of this year. FSD on v12 might be when we can get our hopes up on its valuation. Robotaxi is definitely when the auto industry and the market would get some slaps in their face, but that will be ways off.Yee of little faith
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And that doesn't even account of if Tesla reaches wide release of FSD this year which would be the mother all of slaps
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
If I didn't have put spreads sold all over the place I wouldn't be concerned at all.
And that's a good thing for all non-options people to remember. TSLA is by far the largest options market. For entities that want to accumulate TSLA shares, there are often better ways to get them than asking a bunch of fans their price and then buying!
The amount of money being made, and shares accumulated, in this dip is astronomical. Most of the market assumed one thing and bought/sold options accordingly. It then became advantageous for the big boys to crush SP, there was just waaaaay too much money hanging out there for the taking.
This like all dips will unwind. Earnings will be far too good.
If I were to pick one that will impact the stock price/markets to the downside, I will go out on a limb and say it might be Koguan's margin calls
. Yes I know Koguan primarily holds TSLA but TSLA is a huge sentiment stock for the market in general so it impacts the overall markets too.
Wooloomooloo
Member
nVidia did - but regardless fair enough. I actually think today's price floor is a positive thing and perhaps just indicative of underlying confidence.
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