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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Krugerrand
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Get a grip. He hasn’t even bought it yet.
Not sure what you are referring to with “Your Hate filled generalizations“ - all I stated was that in the rest of the OECD countries (countries beside China that buy the majority of new cars), policies that the US republicans support are deeply unpopular, and by implication Elon getting into bed with republicans can be in no way good for its brand internationally.
It takes a lot less time to destroy a good brand image than it does to build it.
“conservative“ policies supported by the US GOP (pro-guns, anti-abortion, no social safety net, minimal government, pro fossil fuels, anti environmental regulations, anti-LGBTQ, etc) are supported globally at a rate nowhere near the ballpark 50/50 for/against split that exists in the USA. In fact the policies of most conservative parties internationally would be considered to the left of the US Democrat party policies.
It sure is capitulation day here on this forum
If you have to ask, the answer is always no.
Capitulation day is always seen in hindsight, like all bull markets and bear markets.
On the contrary, this is exactly the BEST time to dump any silly diversification as this is as good a "SALE!" as one may ever find on a once-in-a-lifeetime, massively disruptive company like Tesla.
Information Asymmetry, often created by this forum, is a gift: USE IT.
And:
The more research one does on Tesla, the more TSLA one buys . . . .
The drama is exactly what Elon wants as he wants this break up to be directly linked to the Democrat's behavior. For awhile I believe Elon sees the democratic party as having the perception of being active on their agenda but actually NOT really doing anything for their agenda. What have we learned from this party besides pointing fingers vs actually solving problems? You have people calling Elon a freeloader and calling for taxing the rich as the ONLY solution to solve all of our problems.
Not inviting Tesla or even saying the name Tesla by the party that ran on climate change is exactly the hypocrisy Elon doesn't want to be apart of. This tells me the democratic party has about zero urgency on the matter and only want to get their votes from the union workers while providing them with ample tax dollars to keep the ICE engine alive by incentivizing the build of hybrids.
Elon have said that it's not about the perception of doing good(I'm gonna vote blue therefore I'm solving climate change) vs actually doing good (I build gigafactories, millions of EVs and an entire charging infrastructure).
So him going republican and announcing it as such(in almost a trolly fashion with a popcorn emoji and everything) just to show his party that he's done with their nonsense.
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StealthP3D
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It's not that Elon "wants" to involve himself in politics, he's dragged into the middle of public political discourse even if he tried to steer clear. But he's learned an important lesson in life - do not make yourself an easy target. He doesn't want to be anyone's punching bag so he has to show potential detractors that if you take a swing at Elon Musk he's going to hit you back and it's going to sting. That actually makes people think twice before they take that sucker punch.
I'm astounded at the number of people who think this is Elon not being able to control himself or that he lashes out because he's so hurt! I learned to parse reality so it makes sense and this, along with discipline, is why I was able to start making big money in the markets long before Tesla was even incorporated. If you want to win at this game called investing you have to be able to parse reality correctly. The people who think Elon is immature and can't control himself will probably not be inclined to put him in charge of significant amounts of money. They will lose out for parsing reality incorrectly. Elon is actually very disciplined and Tweets are one very powerful tool in his toolbox to guide and control how things unfold down the road. He has a voice and he uses it to make people think twice about trying to stop him. He is not a defenseless punching bag that politicians can use for their own purposes.
How is he going to continue to steer the future to his wishes if he just sits on the sidelines and doesn't rock the boat a little? Did any of you naysayers ever stop to ask yourselves why things tend to go Elon's way, not only an inordinate amount of the time but also in spectacular fashion? Ask yourselves why his failures are limited and his successes are so outsized. It's because he's smart, disciplined and he's always working, even when he's Tweeting.
These things should be obvious to anyone paying attention. I lose a lot of respect for people who think Elon's Tweets are an undisciplined "lashing out" because he's hurt and can't help himself. This is Elon letting people know there is a price for treating him like the bad guy or trying to throw roadblocks in front of him.
Agree. In fact I’m pretty sure the cameras can view objects up to 93M miles away
Dates look great. But every single one of those dates in the past was met with either aggressive rate cuts or a combination of aggressive rate cuts and quantitative easing. Now we have the opposite.
Ask yourself when the Fed will become accommodative again or at least willing to go on record that rates will stay neutral and they will not suck money out of the system anymore.
This could take a while.
Or numbers come out 2Q saying we are in a recession while core CPI takes a dump.
CUT the crap, EVERYONE.
Better posters than you have had your blatherings deleted.
Better posters than you have had your blatherings deleted.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Imagine if Musk was able to change the party of AGW denialism.
I wish him the best, although I expect a short lived fling.
I wish him the best, although I expect a short lived fling.
I never post political opinions, hence I cannot participate to the discussions in this thread.
Will be back when the stock is 1200.
Or to cry when it is in the 500s.
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