Euro PMI is a mixed bag (UK weak, Germany and France strong), but leaning a bit on the stronger side. US due out in an hour.
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Krugerrand
Meow
I’m sure as with everything else Elon’s companies do, this service will change and morph and improve as time goes on.
That’s really a big difference between Elon’s companies and their products and most everyone else; constant rapid development of the product and change towards getting more for your dollar but also seeing your original purchased product improve substantially without having to buy the next version.
Coolio2000
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My 2021 Model Y with 18,000 miles on it has been absolutely perfect. No problems with customer service in Denver. I have no idea what your talking about. I would say that I'm in the silent majority, not the select few that vent on internet forums.
Any idea why the Tesla Frankfurt stock price action today is so linear, and down more than 4%?
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Some comments elsewhere said mostly minor problems usually fixed and retested.
In UK, we have annual MOT for cars older than 3 years. Standard procedure is test, fix, re-test. Two tries are included in MOT (certain conditions). Usual fails include lightbulbs, emissions, suspension, bushes, brakes and tyres. Often if people know there's a problem (eg tyres), they'll still not fix before first test because another fix might be related and so cheaper on labour cost and timing/arranging transport while fixing to do it all at once rather than multiple trips.
A difference with Tesla in Germany (so some said) is that non-Teslas are usually tested by (same-make?) dealers who fix before test, whereas Teslas often have a test, fix, re-test cycle.
cliff harris
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FUD or not?
Over 10 Percent of Tesla Model S EVs Fail Germany’s Strict Inspection After 3 Years
It's actual hard data on Tesla's quality issues as seen in the wild.www.thedrive.com
If only the 'strict German inspections' had noticed dieselgate earlier eh?
The Accountant
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I have always been a person to "never sweat the small stuff". I have never previously inspected a new purchased car.
Maybe I did a quick walk around . . . .listened to the salesman tell me how the radio worked and off I went. I had never heard of panel gaps.
But with my Model Y purchase last December, I was ready !!!
I checked for panel gaps . . .opened trunk and frunk . . .checked the paint . . .door alignment . . . .interior door panels . . . touch screen . . etc.
I wanted to find something . . . my delivery advisor was patient.
I found nothing. The car was perfect.
The bellweather stock known as SNAP cut their guidance.
Perhaps it's an issue with our larger sample size?
While I'm thrilled you've had an excellent example of the Model Y, perhaps your lack of service visits leads to "no problems with customer service in Denver."
Since 2013 we've owned over a dozen MS's and have far, far too much experience bonding with various service centers over broken MS's, to include two refreshes with major issues (MS LR with a blown front motor inverter leading to my wife being left stranded at the side of the road, and a Plaid with a blown out half-shaft and squeak and rattle issues that were "fixed" with, and I am not kidding, duct tape on the seat back latch strikers . . . ).
The impact on TSLA is that over the long-term, Tesla Quality MUST improve if only for reputational considerations. In the long term it's not legacy OEM's that pose a threat to Tesla's dominance, but the rise of some smart Chinese brand with both very high quality and a lower price point.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Also Abercrombie & Fitch, which I believe manufactures semiconductors and jeans for 16 year olds, cut guidance and reported weak profits. Tech selloff accelerated.
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Somebody is making a bet that Elon walks away from Twitter on Wednesday.
Looks like there were only 2 data points. That would generate a straight line.
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I'm on my second Tesla since early 2013. Neither car has had any particular problems. Quality is just as good as any other car I've had for the past fifty years (and some were far worse). The worst customer service I've had from Tesla I would describe as average. Most has been much better than average. Just like every car, some will have issues (either with the car or with the service), this is not unique to Tesla. About the complaints in this and other forums: Typically if a person is upset about something they post many times in many places, so one complaint looks like a dozen. Also there are some who post complaints but have never owned a Tesla. No idea what the percentage might be. There are also some who purchase the car expecting it to be a panacea--in the end it's a car, a good car, but still a car.
My 2018 3 wasn't perfect, but it was pretty damn good. Slight panel issue on the hood and I ended up getting a taillight and stalk replaced. I've bought plenty of new cars in my life, and I have yet to have one that is perfect. Doubt I ever will.
bkp_duke
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Uptick rule expired for today. I'm expecting the manipulators to push down hard on TSLA. Hope I'm wrong.
My 2018 model 3 has 67,000 miles on it and I've only changed the tires nothing else it runs like the day I picked it up
I'm going to pick up my brand new model y later this week so then I will be all Tesla.
I'd expect a push down until PMI, and then PMI (followed by JPow) will dictate whatever happens for the day.
I clicked on the article (reluctantly) and its source is a German article, but does not link to the actual issues being seen or the report. Maybe a German who lives in Germany can find the actual data? I'll wait for the actual data to form an opinion.FUD or not?
Over 10 Percent of Tesla Model S EVs Fail Germany’s Strict Inspection After 3 Years
It's actual hard data on Tesla's quality issues as seen in the wild.
As a guess, I'd suspect that the actual data would show that these 'issues' being found are innocuous as Tesla's warranty costs have been declining overtime and if someone rolled into the inspection not knowing they had these issues, how bad could they be? and these Tesla's are still under warranty as well so maybe the owner hasn't done due diligence in getting them fixed?
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