The one I liked was American Motors. It ultimately had to be acquired to stay "alive", but it's demise was, among many factors, it's inability to keep up with increased fuel efficiency standards.
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Words of HABIT
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Additional commentary from The Verge. This safety rating news is awesome.
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Tesla Model Y earns five-star rating from European safety agency
Tesla Model Y earned the highest overall score.
www.theverge.com
The testing measures four areas: the vehicle’s ability to protect adults; its ability to protect children; the protection it provides vulnerable road users like cyclists and pedestrians; and its safety assistance features. The Model Y, made at Tesla’s new gigafactory in Berlin, scored a 97 percent in Adult Occupant Protection and a “near-perfect” 98 percent in Safety Assist, with full points for its lane support and new cabin camera-based driver monitoring system, Euro NCAP reports.
The agency also commended Tesla for its camera-only vision system, which it said “performs remarkably well” in preventing collisions with other cars, cyclists, and pedestrians.
“Tesla have shown that nothing but the best is good enough for them, and we hope to see them continue to aspire to that goal in the future,” Michiel van Ratingen, Euro NCAP’s secretary general, said in a statement.
Tesla Models SEXY are the best safety performers and Model Y is the best of the best. Nice!
OTOH, you are confusing Teslas value ($873 Billion) with its cash on hand ($19 Billion).
They don't have to offer all cash in a deal, they could offer TSLA stock instead.
BTW, Elon's personal wealth is also mostly in stocks, not cash, so your comparison is faulty anyway.
dhanson865
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I never typed a word about reliability related to connector type. Either you are reading into the study I linked to and assuming I wrote the study or you are imagining that I wrote something I didn't write for some other reason.
Electric Vehicle Sales and Market Share (US - Updated Monthly) says Tata and Stellantis has 0 BEV sales in the US in 2021. Are you confusing PHEV with BEV or do you have a source that says they sold BEVs in 2021 in the US?
I never typed a word about reliability related to connector type. Either you are reading into the study I linked to and assuming I wrote the study or you are imagining that I wrote something I didn't write for some other reason.
253 in 1908, 44 in 1929 and The Great Depression wiped out the rest.
Fast forward to today and the landscape is different, but it is a foregone conclusion that AI will do the same thing as it takes over manufacturing efficiencies and the driving task.
Yes, the impossible has been delayed a bit, but it is coming nonetheless.
Words of HABIT
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How will the Cybertruck perform in its safety rating tests? I think the testing agencies will need to add a fifth point of measure.
1) the vehicle’s ability to protect adults;
2) the vehicle's ability to protect children;
3) the vehicles's protection it provides vulnerable road users like cyclists and pedestrians;
(I believe Cybertruck will score high in safety due to the front end angle design, roll over the top rather than like being hit by a wall compared to all other pick-up truck "flat face mamma" designs)
4) the vehicle's safety assistance features.
5) the vehicle's ability to protect the testing agencies' safety testing equipment. Their equipment is in for a world of hurt.
1) the vehicle’s ability to protect adults;
2) the vehicle's ability to protect children;
3) the vehicles's protection it provides vulnerable road users like cyclists and pedestrians;
(I believe Cybertruck will score high in safety due to the front end angle design, roll over the top rather than like being hit by a wall compared to all other pick-up truck "flat face mamma" designs)
4) the vehicle's safety assistance features.
5) the vehicle's ability to protect the testing agencies' safety testing equipment. Their equipment is in for a world of hurt.
Right toward the end there AMC partnered up with Renault- I'd assume in an attempt to meet those new standards. My parents bought a pair of the R5 Le Cars. Only car I've ever seen w 3 lug nuts per wheel, lol.
Artful Dodger
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FTFY. [GazProm fricative redacted]
But ooh, so close! Never a dull moment, always twists and turns with Tesla, wot?
Chairs to the Longs!
To quote Nathan Hale, "I only regret that I have but one thumb to lose for this post."
They kept getting cash infusions from Renault to keep afloat with Renault eventually taking on majority ownership. Renault eventually received too much pressure and sold its stake to chrysler
Don’t know about the USA but Europe already has IOT networks (sigfox, lora) with near 100% coverage, and probably a lot more low power than anything that works via a sattelite.
Well, Idra doesn't give out castings at cost. The advantage of acquisition is to reduce cost of each machine built when Idra no longer take a massive cut in the form of gross margins.
If Tesla were to build 100 giga presses on their way to 20M cars, the cost savings pay for itself at only 14B
From a TA perspective, 282 and 283 are both pretty important numbers. Will be interesting to see how the market reacts if Tesla can challenge those areas.
Tesla blog post on Euro-NCAP test results of Model Y of today:
The latch confused me, the European CCS that the new Tesla superchargers in Europe use don´t have them. Found out there is an American (CCS/Combo 1) and a European version (CCS/Combo 2) which are different: Combined Charging System - Wikipedia
Just had a thought. Elon stated Tesla was seeing materials costs starting to drop. If this continues Elon further stated they would try to lower prices.
However demand far exceeds production so price drops don't necessarily affect the Mission. What if, instead, Tesla offers a temporary discount to FSD? As FSD improves, any increase in takerate will have an absolute impact on safety. Considering FSD profit margins this seems like a better option both for overall safety improvements and for Teslas financials.
However demand far exceeds production so price drops don't necessarily affect the Mission. What if, instead, Tesla offers a temporary discount to FSD? As FSD improves, any increase in takerate will have an absolute impact on safety. Considering FSD profit margins this seems like a better option both for overall safety improvements and for Teslas financials.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
They just raised the price a couple days ago though. Not sure they even want more people buying FSD in the short term.
Anal much? My Freemont made red MY is still red after 15K miles and 1 year of use. Take your biases elsewhere.
I am going to use Starlink in a city to show a finger to 2 monopolies that nobody seems to notice/care. I just want to pay Tesla not them.
Yesterday, I discovered that you can still hit a tree in reverse, and yet still receive a 100% safety score. But it was an edge case as you’ll see, and most embarrassing because I did this right in front of a charity event food line no less than 15 ft way, 100+ Homeless watching it. (I hand out batteries to homeless each week, rough stuff in this heat, makes my problems go away… this one especially as it made me laugh at the dichotomy of it all; how could I possibly complain, right?)Additional commentary from The Verge. This safety rating news is awesome.
Tesla Model Y earns five-star rating from European safety agency
Tesla Model Y earned the highest overall score.
The testing measures four areas: the vehicle’s ability to protect adults; its ability to protect children; the protection it provides vulnerable road users like cyclists and pedestrians; and its safety assistance features. The Model Y, made at Tesla’s new gigafactory in Berlin, scored a 97 percent in Adult Occupant Protection and a “near-perfect” 98 percent in Safety Assist, with full points for its lane support and new cabin camera-based driver monitoring system, Euro NCAP reports.
The agency also commended Tesla for its camera-only vision system, which it said “performs remarkably well” in preventing collisions with other cars, cyclists, and pedestrians.
“Tesla have shown that nothing but the best is good enough for them, and we hope to see them continue to aspire to that goal in the future,” Michiel van Ratingen, Euro NCAP’s secretary general, said in a statement.
Tesla Models SEXY are the best safety performers and Model Y is the best of the best. Nice!
Like I said, unusual parking situation where the tree leaned out past the curb, (jumped?) so perhaps sonar wasn't sensed in time, no warning that I recall. The visual was terrible - a giant tree with poor contrast against the cement wall. Upon review, I could just barely make it out in the rear view mirror (too dark) especially with bright sunlight in front.
In reality, we both missed this one, but sure would be good to get the latest Beta… please?
Ya my spoiler is in the back seat now. MYP, fully operational, no misaligned hatch or new wind noises. It didn’t budge… the tree!
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