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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Just my opinion based on everyone I talk to and correspond with. They like the car but would no longer consider buying one or the stock because of the CEO.
So none.
That week was capitulation by the bears. The chart shows it clearly.Haha, there were 3B shares traded the week of 03-07 Feb 2020, which included a 30% drop in the SP over 2 sessions (really 1 session, plus the last 20 min of the previous session).
That wasn't "capitulation" either (at least not by Retail). SP rebounded to multiple new ATHs over the following 2 years.
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This time, it seems some Retail have sold though. The FUD has been relentless. People who want to hold but are feeling the heat need to zoom out. Tesla has never been in a better place as a business. The future is bright, this storm will pass. Will you still own your shares, or will shortie?
Cheers!
The next big rally will most likely be a dead cat bounce. TSLA is bound for under $100 for an extended period of time. Most likely to take out all those long dated smarty-pants call buyers. The harder trade is to actually short TSLA at these levels.
Go back and look at all the 2018 articles criticizing the president for criticizing Powell and the destruction that he would unleash on the economy if he kept raising rates. Powell finally listened.
Elon is warning of the same thing now.
They (current admin) are going to destroy this economy. Worst part, inflation will most likely not be under control. Supply side, energy policy...see you all on the other side. This is not by accident.
news.yahoo.com
Elon is warning of the same thing now.
They (current admin) are going to destroy this economy. Worst part, inflation will most likely not be under control. Supply side, energy policy...see you all on the other side. This is not by accident.
Trump battled the Powell Fed's rate hikes. Biden's betting on them
U.S. central bankers on Tuesday will open their first meeting of the year already in broad agreement that they need to raise interest rates soon, likely in March, to slow the economy. The silence marks a sharp reversal for the Federal Reserve and its chair, Jerome Powell. Trump waged a public...
Now that the forward 2023 p/e has been compressed to less than 20 times,
one would expect value players to emerge.
We see how price reductions here in the USA bring on huge demand.
all else being equal, I would expect the same in China and Europe And
rest of world.
one would expect value players to emerge.
We see how price reductions here in the USA bring on huge demand.
all else being equal, I would expect the same in China and Europe And
rest of world.
market manipulation? more like a bubble bursting. TSLA was never worth 1.3T in market cap. that was always absurd. add to it the CEO destroying the brand. people view us tesla drivers are a-hole now thanks to Elon's antics
Just my opinion based on everyone I talk to and correspond with. They like the car but would no longer consider buying one or the stock because of the CEO.
So none.
Curious - I guess, then, what's the purpose of posting that assumption to this forum...?
DanCar
Active Member
Jan 1st Elon will tweet about record production, then the nightmare will be over.
Elon has ZERO credibility at this point. he is a LIAR and has backstabbed everyone who supported him. nothing he says will help aside from saying "I resign as CEO"
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
JPow is in the driver's seat, we're in the rumble seat.
Huh?
Am I? No. I don't trade options. I buy and hold great companies. So far, Tesla.
You're welcome. Hope your trades work out for you.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
I must say that compared to the ongoing gut wrenching as the SP crept closer to auto-liquidation of the margin account, the act of selling shares in order to close it out was more cathartic than I had anticipated. 
Probably will be good for back health as well. What, with the weight of that albatross having been removed from the shoulders.
Probably will be good for back health as well. What, with the weight of that albatross having been removed from the shoulders.
Well, we all have opinions. People express their opinions on investment forums.
Wow 35 TTM PE on a company growing 40% YOY after a ‘disastrous‘ year.
No one cares about the IRA margin explosion in both cars and batteries In 2023.
No one cares about the exploding energy storage division which finally has batteries and factories.
No one cares about the upcoming Cybertruck, poised to blow brains globally.
No one cares about the huge moat Tesla possesses with the best charging network in the world.
No one cares about the FSD which still needs work but is at least on par with the best in the world.
No one cares about the best manufacturing technologies in the world, both for cars and batteries.
No one cares about the ramp in the semi division.
No one cares about the Optimii in the future.
No one cares about the upcoming 25K (or so. Anything 30 and below will be crushing to ICE) model that will be untouchable by OEMs at that price point.
No one cares.
Time to buy. Tesla deserves this undervaluation by any metric unless it stops cold growing right now. Even then at current run rate maintained PE will go below 20 in a year. 25 with aggressive price cuts. With no growth at all.
Best thing EM did was wiping the balance sheet clean. Can’t imagine the hysterical FUD that would be out there with Tesla carrying even one tenth the average debt of an OEM.
No one cares about the IRA margin explosion in both cars and batteries In 2023.
No one cares about the exploding energy storage division which finally has batteries and factories.
No one cares about the upcoming Cybertruck, poised to blow brains globally.
No one cares about the huge moat Tesla possesses with the best charging network in the world.
No one cares about the FSD which still needs work but is at least on par with the best in the world.
No one cares about the best manufacturing technologies in the world, both for cars and batteries.
No one cares about the ramp in the semi division.
No one cares about the Optimii in the future.
No one cares about the upcoming 25K (or so. Anything 30 and below will be crushing to ICE) model that will be untouchable by OEMs at that price point.
No one cares.
Time to buy. Tesla deserves this undervaluation by any metric unless it stops cold growing right now. Even then at current run rate maintained PE will go below 20 in a year. 25 with aggressive price cuts. With no growth at all.
Best thing EM did was wiping the balance sheet clean. Can’t imagine the hysterical FUD that would be out there with Tesla carrying even one tenth the average debt of an OEM.
Nolimits
Member
Same. Limit order 111
Lol Who are these people you are hanging out w?
Agree the 1.3T then, appeared to be absurd. But future 1T seems reasonable w the TAM in various industries. Classic debate of is it “just” a car company or not. If you are in this forum, I am assuming you believe the latter - manufacturing prowess, AI/fsd, energy, robotics etc.
Bottom can’t be too far now. Just sit back watch the show.
bballshinobi
Member
Lol I did contemplate selling when we hit $400 and $1.3T too. In my head I was thinking $2.5T in 5-8 years, so $1.3T today seems like a reasonable price already. Somebody run the discount cash flow and let me know if I should’ve sold lol
Chartered321
Member
Today's entire market is manipulated, not only TSLA, you can find hundreds of examples of bubbles bursting. Why? because powell and the fed wanted to bring the banks back in business again. So they killed retail investors and push for more unemployment. Today no big retail investor has the money to give the stock a direction so we are in the hands of institutionals only. Long term some will fail and bankrupt, some others will survive. You can't question Tesla products and pipeline. You can question the marketing around it, Musk included.
Please feel free to do so the moment Tesla has shrinking production, carries 200B in debt and spins off its energy division as a separate company.
one of the hardest things to do with long term investing is being able to sell and then forget about the investment and not look back and regret you didn't hold it. in this case many in this thread view their TSLA stock with emotional attachments and pride. and when that happens that is when you make poor trading decisions such as you described
if you really believe that then you should put your $$$$ in cash. some banks are brokerages are paying a very good rate right now vs. losing 10% a day in TSLA stock
All the bears in this thread showing up and beating their chests... Every time that has happened, that has been a good sign.. In the long run, they only get to gloat and feel good about themselves for relatively short periods of time.
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