We know that the initial offerings are the S3XY and then a pickup. However, I want a van. I've got a 2005 Odyssey that is so easy to maneuver, see out of, and such practical use of space. I also have a Ford Flex Ecoboost with about 450+hp. If I'd start spraying the methanol I have hooked up, it's about 550hp. The Flex drives like a heavy sports car compared to the lumbering performance of the top heavy and puny minivan. Now I'm about to have a 3P in the garage as well. I really want to marry the best of these vehicles into one, and that would be a Tesla Model V(an). For now, VW has already stated their ID Buzz is going to be produced in 2022. They have taken forever to build on the VW Bus fame, but it's going to happen. Elon, you going to let VW beat you to the punch on this? I'd like to stay in the Tesla family, but for now, VW is poised to get my money. Anybody else?