CrazyRabbit
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i imagine payments are taxable. so could you depreciate your Powerwall investment against the earnings?
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You aren’t missing anything. It’s ridiculously unclear. Tesla’s own page says that the max earning per year would be $700 now, it used to be a higher number but never took a screenshot. National Grid says max would be $1,100 ($1,375 - 20% Tesla cut) but I can’t make the math work to match either of those based on the other facts of the program…Thanks, that is helpful, though I think the max total is $1,100, if NG draws summer and winter. Wouldn't the worst case power cost would be $1/kWh, assuming that they used a full sixty events in the summer, as it might be closer to $60/kWh if NG did it only once? Or am I missing something?
Just a guess that Tesla might be trying to be conservative and assume both a ~20% reserve and the possibility that no solar is generated during the event, which would result in the PWs hitting their reserve in about 2 hours (where events can run 3 hours.) That would put you in the $700-800 range (depending on the exact reserve level Tesla is setting and any degradation.)You aren’t missing anything. It’s ridiculously unclear. Tesla’s own page says that the max earning per year would be $700 now, it used to be a higher number but never took a screenshot. National Grid says max would be $1,100 ($1,375 - 20% Tesla cut) but I can’t make the math work to match either of those based on the other facts of the program…
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I’m just expecting to get around $1k per Powerwall. And if after the first year I’m not happy with it, I’ll unenroll.
Think big! $50/kW!I'm eager to see what the actual terms are of the Tesla CA VPP. I want at least $0.50/kWh in demand response payment on top of NEM credits to join this.
Sure, $50/kW per season would be fine too. I would still need the standard NEM credits too though for each kWh. That would be an additional $500 per Summer and $500 per Winter rate season because I have two Powerwalls and they can each output 5kW. That is reasonable because I am on a rate plan that has a 4 month Summer and 8 month Winter.Think big! $50/kW!
I hope there are additional incentives as well, like discounts on additional powerwalls. I'd love to be able to add a couple more to our current set up.
Would it be worth it to Tesla to bump PW orders for the Virtual Power Plant to the head of the line?I don't think discounts on Powerwalls are likely in the near term, considering that Tesla appears to be supply-constrained at this point (they have more orders than they can fill).
Bruce.
Let's not forget what the Texas power company charged customers for power during that freeze even this year; $9.00 kWh
I’ve felt since last year when my Powerwalls arrived rather quickly that Tesla is giving priority to deliveries that also earn them the extra income stream from VPP. But I don’t have much other than my own and others’ circumstantial evidences to base this theory off of.Would it be worth it to Tesla to bump PW orders for the Virtual Power Plant to the head of the line?
How many would sign up for Virtual Power Plant if it bumped your PW order to the head of the line?
Even if I only end up with bragging rights for helping lead the divestment from fossil fuels.
Good thing I own shares.My bet is the above is pretty much what people can expect to get, except for NEM credits.