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[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance
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I'm not sure it ever was to any major extent - uploading video would show on my wifi stats for the car and I've never seen anything near it, since 2019. Basic telemetry, I could believe that, but that's not going to train FSD.
Wasn't it the emigration of telephone sanitisers that killed off mankind? At least, according to Douglas Adams....
So, a normal day in Swansea then? Didn't realise most of the cars around me had FSD!
zoomer0056
Active Member
It is OK under simple conditions. Maybe too ambiguous at times which could cause an accident. It would be interesting to see it in inclement conditions (fog, rain, snow).
Once it became more complex the driver had to intervene. Good pre-beta/beta; far cry from FSD (whatever that means).
Autonomous driving on European roads is a long way off and may never be possible on lesser roads without V2V communication. But show me another car for sale today that is capable of this outside of high definition mapped roads and strictly limited locations.
MrBadger
Badger out
High definition maps and limited locations is not a bad thing.
How do you eat an elephant?
Limited locations is the difference between L3/L4 and L5. And not necessarily strictly limited. I wouldn't call L3 on the UK motorway/divided A road network as 'strictly limited'. That would be like calling NoA, 'strictly limited'. Current UNECE 157 regs would allow for type approved L3 in these circumstances at up to ~80mph. Its early days, but there are a number of vehicles that appear to be testing for L3 type approval.
As for high definition mapped roads. Thats not a great limitation either. Its not like a yearly navigation map update. These are maps being continuously updated by thousands of fleet vehicles and have been for quite a few years. Any changes are capable of being picked up very quickly and potentially deployed within a very short time scale of a change being detected, potentially whilst a car is on route to that location. Its not like roads the sort of roads that can currently be autonomously driven will change second by second and even if they did, the high definition mapping is just one input to the vehicles sets of inputs for the drive. They can still turn at junctions etc even without maps, but the map will aid their ability to know exactly where to drive. This does differ from Teslas constantly changing 'real time mapping', ie constantly flickering lines and path predictions, but will allow repeatedly accurate paths to be followed and if the other sensors detect an issue with the path, the car will work out an alternative. No bad thing IMHO.
Back to the question.
How do you eat an elephant?
Other manufacturers are doing it one bite at a time and making sure that bite is as perfect and testable as they can get.
Tesla are trying to eat everything in one go, and imho, have realised that they have bitten off more than they can chew.
I would pay for level 3/4 on motorways and dual carriageways/major trunk roads. If that means I do the last mile fine. Its a clear and useful feature.
Everything else aside. I think it’s pretty damning that they are still advertising 3 features of EAP that patently don’t work on cars without USS (auto park, summon and smart summon) with no mention - that I can see - on new orders that these features won’t be available.
So for customers that aren’t savvy or forum aware, the first time they would realise they r been fleeced over £3k is when they try to use one of those features? Or is it flagged later in the purchase journey?
So for customers that aren’t savvy or forum aware, the first time they would realise they r been fleeced over £3k is when they try to use one of those features? Or is it flagged later in the purchase journey?
It is novel and interesting, definitely an achievement but long way from something that is practical and usable on a daily basis, let alone robotaxis.
Absolutely agree. It would make my life so much easier so I'd happily pay. Unfortunately from what I see on my daily commute (A43, M40) and other major routes (Mostly M1, M25, M11) it's not even close.
Lord Farquad
2022 MYLR W/B/20s/Tow bar. Previously 2021 M3SR+
2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware
I have a 2023 Y without sensors. If I purchase EAP will Smart Summon work? How about auto park? Tesla says temporarily not now.
teslamotorsclub.com
Is TV Parking sensors here?
NO. hi car is October 2022
2023 Model Y no USS discussion, incl. Discussion of Tesla Vision Firmware
I have a 2023 Y without sensors. If I purchase EAP will Smart Summon work? How about auto park? Tesla says temporarily not now.
Is TV Parking sensors here?
he still got USS
Thinking about the amount of times that auto steer has tried to kill me I would love to meet the person brave enough to trust FSD
I DO NOT have FSD... I am still trying to feel comfortable with the basic Autopilot ... hahahahaha
Zilla91
Active Member
That's not correct. It's the same everywhere.
That Mars guy cheats it by using one of those sexy button things to silence the warnings
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