Even worse imo when features change / get removed / downgraded on vehicles already purchased. And the question about who decides if the replacement is materially as good or better than previously existing is even more pertinent.
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[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance
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Even worse imo when features change / get removed / downgraded on vehicles already purchased. And the question about who decides if the replacement is materially as good or better than previously existing is even more pertinent.
The issue with Tesla is that they don’t care. They have people who will swoop in and take your car within seconds of you rejecting it. They have all the power which is frustrating.
Chimpy McChimp
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Agreed. At the moment. But I'm sure that will change at some point (lead times already shortened and excess stock seems to suggest it's maybe started? Dunno. Just guessing)
And for sure, I have no intention of rejecting the car. I'm still mostly excited by the prospect of driving it. So for me, yes I guess they do have the power.
Chimpy McChimp
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And I'm still puzzled as to why some got messages about USS and others not. Maybe the T&C's changed at some point and those that ordered before would need to be notified?
MrBadger
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No one complains when Tesla upgrade parts which weren’t available when you purchase though?? It’s not right but just look at how staff are being treated at Twitter!!
Sometimes a person/ company has too much power. You may also find, when you sign to accept the car on delivery, it informs you about USS there too. They will catch you out somewhere.
I already have, kinda. Deferred my MYP because of the lack of USS, and decided to keep my MX with free supercharging and premium connectivity. At the moment I have no intention of following through on the MYP, and instead may reconsider in a year or two when we know how effective ChuckleVision is, and if Midnight Cherry Red becomes available over here.
My goodwill for Telsa as a brand is largely diminished. They're now just a company that I don't particularly like who up until recently made stuff that I really wanted.
Chimpy McChimp
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My point was solely Tesla Vision - you have plenty of options here which you’ve stated which also have huge financial implications on your decision
It’s not simply “because of Tesla vision”
My guarantee with a lot of people is we will end up looking back and realising the cars run better without USS
Chimpy McChimp
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I assume it will. I just wish they had the replacement ready before removing the sensors. That would seem like a sensible thing to do
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The approach by Tesla hasn’t been great I agree. Surely they would perfect vision before making the switch
Something as big as this would have been tested thoroughly you’d think
Chimpy McChimp
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Zilla91
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Based on their track record I wouldn’t be so sure
It was the straw that broke the camel's back. All other factors remained constant before I ordered the MYP and during the year-long wait.
Not sure they can overcome intrinsic sensor characteristics / limitations though. Even if they get vision only to do a great job of replacing USS function while cameras have adequate visibility, the evidence is that cameras easily get their view compromised.
Chimpy McChimp
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LiamPope
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USS on my 2012 Ford work fine in pitch darkness when the camera picture is almost pure black. I can't see Vision ever achieving parity to USS unless there's an infra red camera I didn't know about.
My Tesla has lights, I can reverse park using the camera in the dark perfectly well.
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