Funny that - did the macro environment keep their share price artificially high when they were one of the few manufacturers who could produce cars during the chip shortage - and their margins at 30% plus?
Meme stocks gotta meme....
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Meme stocks gotta meme....
Regarding share price -- now do Ford, Toyota, Aston Martin, Rivian, Lucid, etc. In fact, pick any you wish and track their trailing 12 month share prices. Some of us have done extremely well with our investments into Tesla shares as evidenced by the five-year chart above which, despite a difficult market relatively recently, shows an 833% return over 5 years...
I have tried to refrain from sharing my reactions to this thread. It does seem there are a number of people who despise their Teslas. As respectfully as I can say this -- life is too short and if you hate the car so much why put yourself through the torture? I try to keep an open mind and when we next are looking for a new car I can't say what I will buy. But for us, when researching all the EV options available at the time of our purchases, the Teslas came out as best choice. They are not perfect by any means, and the Tesla way of doing things can be frustrating (as well as in some ways innovative and welcome), but they have many things they get right.
Zilla91
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Oh look, it’s another one of those
Do you must have absolute love for everything that you own, don’t you? Everything you own is flawless and you will not have anyone say anything negative about it
I get that folks have gripes but this thread is exhausting 
Meme stocks 
Current industry marcaps:
I'm sorry folks have disappointing windscreen wipers but lets be sensible. Tesla has a massive capital, supply chain, and manufacturing advantage over the "big boys". All off whom could be bought by Tesla at any point they felt their expertise was required.
There is an interesting conversation to be had about R&D direction and competition but this thread is just a troll fest
Meme stocks Current industry marcaps:
I'm sorry folks have disappointing windscreen wipers but lets be sensible. Tesla has a massive capital, supply chain, and manufacturing advantage over the "big boys". All off whom could be bought by Tesla at any point they felt their expertise was required.
There is an interesting conversation to be had about R&D direction and competition but this thread is just a troll fest
Personally, I am thinking about selling my fridge....Oh look, it’s another one of those
Do you must have absolute love for everything that you own, don’t you? Everything you own is flawless and you will not have anyone say anything negative about it
After 11 months of ownership, there still isn't another brand that I would buy instead. No car is perfect, just don't fancy the looks of the competition.
MashinBenzin
Member
My 2019/2020 Discoveries had much better tech than my 2022 Model Y.
I agree it is a troll fest. People who treat their fastest depreciating asset as though they were a much loved member of the family certainly are trolls. And the same applies to people who say that because they had a lucky investment, the technology in their cars is far superior to anything else this side of alien tech.I get that folks have gripes but this thread is exhausting
Current industry marcaps:
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I'm sorry folks have disappointing windscreen wipers but lets be sensible. Tesla has a massive capital, supply chain, and manufacturing advantage over the "big boys". All off whom could be bought by Tesla at any point they felt their expertise was required.
There is an interesting conversation to be had about R&D direction and competition but this thread is just a troll fest
I would have gone for an Ioniq or EV6, as they seem to be "finished". Tesla seems to be constant WIP, and often not in a good way.
interesting, how tesla is the only one on red graphI get that folks have gripes but this thread is exhausting
Current industry marcaps:
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I'm sorry folks have disappointing windscreen wipers but lets be sensible. Tesla has a massive capital, supply chain, and manufacturing advantage over the "big boys". All off whom could be bought by Tesla at any point they felt their expertise was required.
There is an interesting conversation to be had about R&D direction and competition but this thread is just a troll fest
)))to be fair, I was exploring other options, but at the time of order Tesla had the best charging network (not open to others, yet) and that was more or less the sole factor.
alternativelly, I was very keen on polestar and quite possibly would take Kia EV6 if not morons at dealership. Ioniq 5 was just announced and not available for test drive.
I am happy with some things but really dissapointed by others and appalled by the rest
alternativelly, I was very keen on polestar and quite possibly would take Kia EV6 if not morons at dealership
. Ioniq 5 was just announced and not available for test drive.I am happy with some things but really dissapointed by others and appalled by the rest
The problem is that when people "research" a new car, they often visit forums like this to gauge owners' reactions.
I was lulled into a completely false sense that Tesla tech was streets ahead of the competition, no-one can do what Tesla does, the car is only months away from driving itself, forgive the foibles because the car is so good in all other aspects etc etc ad naseum.
Whereas if I had read real, honest reviews such as are starting to emerge on these pages, I probably would have waited for the new crop of EVs from car manufacturers.
The car is still a reasonable car. But the way some people still make out is it is worth selling your first born just to be in the "in-crowd" with Tesla is simply laughable, so I troll them back for their trolling.
JupiterMan
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its an A180.
Has huge plastic air vents and buttons everywhere.. on the wheel, stalks, dashboard, a horrid track pad thing between the seats, all very ugly, old fashioned and unintuitive.. its like going back to a blackberry after using an iPhone. I haven't even tried using the cruise control, too many buttons/complexity - not for me,
My Tesla is over two years old and zero rattles. Funnily enough I have owned a Qashqai previously, was not a patch on my Tesla, the Nissan software was also horrid and re-booted or failed multiple times. I remember it had a tiny screen with a facebook and eurosport app, which took ages to load, were slow and utterly pointless.
FSD is late, obvs. that's a given.
Relating to Tesla share price, All tech companies are down this year, as are indeed all EV companies.... all also the fault of Tesla in your eyes I presume? or perhaps there are other Macro events that are shaping the markets currently, just a thought?!
the word "soon" is not one I would use. but will it come? Yes. IMHO it's a certainty, just the timeframe that is up for debate.
For me that is not being on a certain part of the "spectrum" or whatever, it was actually instead the primary fundamental in my investment hypothesis when I bought Tesla stock back in 2019.
The car, brand and everything else after that was a secondary (but still important) factor in that decision for me.
I understand you and others don't believe in this tech, but we should be able to politely disagree. Perhaps it is more the case that I look at FSD also from an investor point of view that I can accept the merit in these things/longer term, which currently UK owners see little benefit from?
I also pointed this out many pages ago. Why people who clearly have not liked their Tesla experience and are apparently moving on soon, contribute so much to these pages is a little confusing to me.
Not saying their views are not valid or should not be heard, but the apparent stress and anger emanating form the posts is a tad confusing and unsettling to me. IMHO it's best to concentrate internet posts (and indeed life) on things that you enjoy and add positively to your life and try to avoid other places.
ACarneiro
Active Member
Ah, I see…
Gonna be honest, I miss more buttons. Maybe it’s my old age but I really am finding the “everything-on-the-screen” approach pretty distracting… buttons are always in the same place and you usually get a tactile feedback, makes it easier to do things without taking my eyes off the road…
Anyway, thank you for sharing your view
To be fair you are comparing it with the lowest entry-model class at Mercedes there is... (Which they said they will be discontinuing to focus on the luxury end from now on). Probably would be a different from an E or S class.
That being said I find the latest Mercedes interiors with all the ambient lighting and plastic chrome very tacky, but it attracts a certain audience given what I see on the roads... that was probably driven to attract a younger customer base compared to the older demographics from a decade ago...
As mentioned above - because people like you cause people like me to believe the Tesla experience would be flawless, and hence proceed to press the order button.
When I have to say that - despite the fact I did not "buy" my Tesla - buyer's remorse is huge when I could have had a much better car had I waited a few more months rather than believe the hype.
Now, if you would prefer something more in line with your philosophy - why not just skip these pages if you are too sensitive to people intruding into your perfect world? Don't sit there and be unsettled by opinions you disagree with. Life is too short to read opinions you dislike.
Mercedes realised their product range was too wide, chasing too many sub-divisions with their insane product line up. And seems like they now have the focus and financial strength to once more be the choice of people wanting luxury not sportiness.
I was in a new E class on holiday last week - lovely, and much more of a comparator to a £60k car than a £15k A Class.
JupiterMan
Active Member
Perhaps you should set up a thread on "why you should not buy a Tesla" and post for your life there, rather than hijacking this thread for your self admitted trolling and spinning it off down a road that now has nothing to do with the subject matter?
I would like to know more about USS removal and its successor/software please, and have little interest in your buyer remorse on this thread.
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