It was announced they had it in January. A search on their web site doesn't show it offered. Is there a delay in production? I had a new Mobile Tesla charger fail on me after just 6 weeks of use. To be clear I'm not talking about the hard wired version.
Tesla wall charger that plugs into Nema 240 volt wall outlet
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NoMoGas
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Big Earl
bnkwupt
Well, except for it no longer meeting its UL certification. That may or may not matter to you or your insurance company if things go wrong.
NoMoGas
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That doesn't make sense. If you must, have an electrician do it but these aren't hard to wire up.
darth_vad3r
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This one?
Corded Mobile Connector
It's out of stock. Click the "email me when this item is restocked" button.
Corded Mobile Connector
It's out of stock. Click the "email me when this item is restocked" button.
It’s because UL states that in order for their marking to be valid, the product must be installed in accordance with its instructions. Nothing to do with the qualifications of the installer.
I've watched the videos on YouTube. It's not easy if your not a electrician. And I don't want to hire a electrician. Again I have the Nema 240v socket. Just looking for the Tesla wall module that plugs into the socket.
Big Earl
bnkwupt
They never ended up selling it in any sort of quantity before discontinuing it. It’s unlikely that you’ll find one. You can have a wall connector installed in place of the NEMA 14-50 receptacle or you can use the mobile charge cord.
If your 14-50 outlet is a Leviton brand, I recommend replacing it anyway, as their poor construction is a fire risk.
srs5694
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I haven't followed it very closely, but apparently Tesla made the Wall Connector with NEMA 14-50 plug available at least twice for limited periods, and it's disappeared from Tesla's Web site after a short period. Several options occur to me:
- Wait -- The product may appear again in some days, weeks, months, or years. Or not. In the meantime, you can use the Mobile Connector that came with the car.
- Try to find one from a third party -- You might find a plug-equipped Wall Connector on eBay or from some third-party retailer. Of course, such a unit might be used, and there's a risk it would actually be a hard-wired one with a plug added by the third party (see below).
- Use the Mobile Connector -- You can forget about buying a Wall Connector and instead use a Mobile Connector -- either the one that comes with the car or a second, if you want to keep a Mobile Connector with the car at all times. I think that the Gen1 Mobile Connector, which can deliver 40A, is still available from Tesla, if getting a few extra amps is the point of wanting the Wall Connector. (You'll find it under the Model S/X accessories, but not under the Model 3 accessories.)
- Hack the hard-wired Wall Connector -- As suggested by some others, this is an option, but it'll take some effort or hiring an electrician, and it will nullify the UL certification. If the job is bungled, it'll be a safety hazard (but that's true of installing a hard-wired Wall Connector, too).
- Hard-wire a Wall Connector -- If you've already got a NEMA 14-50 outlet, an electrician should not have trouble hard-wiring a Wall Connector to the wiring currently used for the 14-50 outlet. The resulting unit won't be as easily removed, of course, but it'll work just as well -- maybe better. (If installed outside, hard-wired connections are preferable to using plugs since a hard-wired connection is more weather-proof.)
- Buy something else -- Many companies offer EVSEs with NEMA 14-50 plugs. You could buy one of them. The trouble is that I don't know of a third party that makes EVSEs with Tesla plugs, so you'd need to use Tesla's J1772 adapter, which will be a hassle or require an additional expense to buy a second adapter to be semi-permanently attached to the J1772 plug. Also, I don't know of any third-party EVSE that could provide the 40A you can get out of a NEMA 14-50 for the price of Tesla's Wall Connector, especially when you add the $95 of a J1772 adapter. Thus, this might be a more expensive option, especially if you want 40A charging.
I was at a service center (Marietta) about a week ago stealing WiFi and walked in and they had 15 to 20 sitting on the floor. Asked and was told they are for sale and no need to order. Didn't look at what the mix was but think this is part of the parts on a shelf direction Tesla is heading. OP should check local store/delivery center/service center and they may have it.
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eprosenx
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They had them first for a very short period of time and then they were gone and they removed them from the site. I emailed and asked and they said they were thinking about bringing them back since they were so popular.
More recently they came back into stock again and a lot of people were able to order them. I interpret them being out of stock (but still listing it on the web site) as a good sign. I think they are selling them going forward, but they are just out of stock right now.
They seem to come and go out of stock. I ordered one a few weeks ago and am glad I did. It's longer cord allows me to charge my car on either side of the garage as compared to the UMC. That by itself is worth it to me nevermind the fact I can keep the UMC packaged and less wear on the wall plug.
darth_vad3r
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MorrisonHiker
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We sold a vehicle recently and the new owner ordered a regular wall connector directly from the LV Service Center. They accidentally sent the corded wall connector instead.
So for those of you who are searching for the corded wall connector, try calling around to various service centers. As @JulienW mentioned, they might have a pile of them waiting to be ordered!
So for those of you who are searching for the corded wall connector, try calling around to various service centers. As @JulienW mentioned, they might have a pile of them waiting to be ordered!
srs5694
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You linked to the page for the Gen1 Mobile Connector, but this thread is explicitly about the Wall Connector with a NEMA 14-50 plug rather than a "pigtail" for hard-wiring. Although the two devices are functionally very similar, they aren't identical, and some people want a Wall Connector with a plug. Without further information, we can't be sure if a Gen1 Mobile Connector would suit @CJtes's needs. I just checked, and I couldn't find any sign of information on a plug-equipped Wall Connector on Tesla's site right now, but I have seen mention of such a device being sold from time to time, including just a few weeks ago, IIRC.
corded mobile connector is out of stock, corded wall charger is "missing"
darth_vad3r
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Ah, good point. My bad...
But... we are in a Model 3 forum so the one I linked to maxes out the cars’ charging limit if I’m not mistaken*, and that’s for the LRs. The SRs are already maxed by the UMC
.If you get the $520 Corded Mobile Connector (Corded Mobile Connector) and the $25 Cable Organizer (Cable Organizer), you effectively have the same solution for a Model 3, for $45 more vs a $500 Wall Connector, that you can also bring with you on a trip.
Actually, is it $45 more? Was the corded one $500 too?
*EDIT: I think I’m technically mistaken, but the effect is the same here anyways. The LR can do 48A, but it can only do 40A via a 14-50 due to the 80% rule, so the 40A Corded Mobile Connector provides the same max 40A that a 14-50 Corded Wall Connector can provide continuously.
Honestly then, is the only reason to choose the Wall Connector Corded version vs the Corded Mobile Connector just “for looks”? The looks/functionality with the cable organizer seem equivalent, and the added benefit of easy portability for a trip seems like a bonus.
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Does the Wall charger with the Tesla 14-50P connector and factory cable have the temperature sensor built into the plug? If not, what is the advantage of not having an electrician wire up the model designed for direct connection? Seems to me it would be no less safe. Do any of the other chargers made by other manufactures have temp sensors built into the plug for safety?
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Dan203
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The main reason people want these is because they already have a NEMA 14-50 in their garage and this would be a self install rather then having to pay an electrician $$$ to hardwire it. A few other reasons come to mind to as well...
It's easier to remove if you decide to move
If the wall connector fails you'll still have the NEMA outlet to fall back on
Having the option to use the NEMA outlet for other types of EVs, RVs, rented tools, etc...
The NEMA outlet is much more flexible then a single purpose hardwired Tesla only box.
Big Earl
bnkwupt
Yes to all of these things. Just be sure to install a high quality receptacle (the ones that are $70-80). It isn’t worth being cheap on that.
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