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Tesla Whistleblower releases VINs with alleged punctured battery cells - Who's got a 3 on the list?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by SoCal Jimmy, Aug 15, 2018.

  1. SoCal Jimmy

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  2. SD_Engnr

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    That's crazy!

    Happy to report that I'm safe.
     
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    Everyone is safe for crying out loud.:confused::rolleyes:
     
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  4. dek526

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    damn it woulf suck to find out that your vin was on the list
     
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  6. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    I do not even believe he has this information. He's probably misinterpreting something he stole from Tesla.
     
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    Is there a Facebook check in for "I am safe in my Model 3?"
     
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    Wow. Close. I’m less than 100 off from like a few of the vins but not it.
     
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    PoitNarf The Clown Prince of Crime

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    My VIN is almost on there, it’s off by a single digit in the last character. Even if my actual VIN was there I still have severe doubts on the credibility of this guy.
     
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  10. SoCal Jimmy

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    As do i, i just wanted to see if any of our members had a VIN that’s on this list


     
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    Didn't he work at the gigafactory? If so, how could he possibly know which battery packs had bad cells? In turn, how could he know which cars they wound up in? This sounds like 100% FUD.
     
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    Makes no sense.

    These battery modules are made quickly, binning damaged ones isnt a issue why would Tesla put in defective cells? Just grab a new one from the parts bin, why would anyone track defective cell VINs?

    Seems like more FUD. This guy isn't trustworthy and has money on the line here to push this FUD.
     
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    Searchable list (via reddit): Martin Trip Model 3 VINs - Pastebin.com

    I don't find his reports to be credible at this time since they seem based on second-hand understanding, but I'm interested to see how this develops further.
     
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    His reason to come up with arbitrary VINs is precisely to create this reaction you see in this thread.

    And that is all the intent. Create some panic and FUD
     
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  15. Daniel in SD

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    I thought the claim was he had installed backdoors into Tesla's computer systems. There are VINs on the list that are in the 30,000s. Weren't those manufactured after the backdoors were found?
     
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  16. PoitNarf

    PoitNarf The Clown Prince of Crime

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    A very good point!
     
  17. Jedi2155

    Jedi2155 Please Insert a Model 3 into Avatar

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    I'm not sure if you guys are aware, but Tesla's battery pack technology includes lots of safeguards for failed battery cells. Its their battery packaging technology that puts them leaps and bounds above their competition and one of big things is their safety margins.

    Tesla believes that small cells is better and safer than large cells, because its easier to contain the thermal runaway from a small cell than a big cell rupturing. Plus the manufacturing quality was significantly better in cylindrical cells versus pouch cells (large format) with far fewer manufacturing defects.

    I was at a Tesla presentation a long time ago and they were presenting this data along with how many cells fail in a module, but generally Tesla modules are designed with to take cell losses without losing the entire module/pack. While me, like anyone would prefer to have a vehicle not be on the list, I would bet there was enough safety margin in the pack design that even if salvage cells were utilized, the pack would function as designed even if the cells failed.
     
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  18. Cheburashka

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    It's actually pretty simple .

    Any manufacturing/resource planning system will let you see the origin/time/place/issues of that any part was manufactured down to the bolt and person on the line. How do you think manufacturers issue recalls for specific VINs?
     
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    select vin from cardata where battery_cell=hosed;
     
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  20. WierdMobile

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    I'm not on the list, but if I was, I'd contact Tesla and see if they'd be interested in having my battery pack examined by an independent third party to check for the alleged defect. If Trip is full of it, Tesla gets evidence they can use to prove as much in court. If he's telling the truth, presumably Tesla would replace the defective battery modules. Win-win for the owner.
     
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