As I recall the AWD in the Model X sacrificed the tunnel at the back of the frunk, but the main part of the frunk was still there.
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As I recall the AWD in the Model X sacrificed the tunnel at the back of the frunk, but the main part of the frunk was still there.
kinddog
Banned
i hope it's the addition of 4G LTE.
and i hope it's introduced before they build my car!
~ P10,340
and i hope it's introduced before they build my car!
~ P10,340
bonnie
I play a nice person on twitter.
Noo have not even gotten my car how can it be outdated
The price to be paid for early adoption
More choices the merrier!
My assumption is that the Model S sold today will be upgradeable. Look at all the available Roadster upgrades, with many performance options coming.
(I personally love the idea of buying a vehicle that I can keep updating, instead of just buying a new one every n years. Love. That.)
Did a quick comparison of the skateboard on S and X, from pictures on teslamotors.com, now and the motor up front on the X seems to be perfectly alligned with the "frunk-tunnel" on the S.... So much so that it makes me wonder if the "frunk-tunnel" wasnt a design afterthougt but actually a deliberate design in order to make AWD possible at a later time... Sounds like very smart engineering.
Most likely wishful thinking on my part, but it really looks plausible to me.....
Most likely wishful thinking on my part, but it really looks plausible to me.....
That can be added to all models though -- doubt that would count as a "variant".
You, missy, are not alone.
AWD. It's a given thing, sooner or later. It is already developed for Model X, they need only to test, fine tune and produce it.
Besides that, maybe a caravan and/or sedan version.
Besides that, maybe a caravan and/or sedan version.
I hope you are right. The key is how upgradeable a model S 1.0 will be. I do not know much details about the Roadster variants, but my impression from reading the various Tesla forums is that the 1.0 owners were not eligible for many upgrades introduced with subsequent revisions.
Time will tell...
I suspect this is correct. The Model S is a much more mature design than the 1.0 Roadster. Heck it's more mature than any version of the Roadster.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
When Elon talks about "variants of the Model S" he doesn't mean a Convertible, a pick-up etc. That would be new models, just like the Model X is not a "variant" of Model S but another model albeit built on the same platform. Also, he can't mean simple options such as 4G, center console for the back seat, factory mounted hitch etc. Currently, I'd argue that there are 4 "variants" of the Model S: 40kW, 60kW, 85kW, P85kW. The analogy would be from teslamotors.com's Model X page where you find the following "variants": battery 60kW or 85kW, drivetrain RWD, AWD or AWD performance. Just guessing here but probably the AWD performance would only be available with the 85kW battery.
So this leads me to conclude that when he says "variants" he must mean either AWD or another battery option (or both?). He could, IMO, be talking about some kind of hard top/convertible option, but in a way I'd think that unlikely, especially given the fact that with the pano roof you've already got something of a "convertible light" option. I agree with previous posters who have pointed out that there is the "extended part" of the frunk where the front motor probably fits. And from the Model X images you can see that the front motor is smaller so it would probably fit there.
A new (bigger) battery I'd be more surprised about, since it's not just sticking a new version of the 18650 cells in a pack, it would require a lot of redesign and new considerations as you now would have other voltages, other amperages, you'd have to maybe use other wiring, a new inverter, maybe a higher spec. motor if you want to take full advantage of the performance, etc. etc. That would be unlikely to be something they could introduce "next year". AWD on the other hand is something they have already developed, tested, etc. for the Model X.
So this leads me to conclude that when he says "variants" he must mean either AWD or another battery option (or both?). He could, IMO, be talking about some kind of hard top/convertible option, but in a way I'd think that unlikely, especially given the fact that with the pano roof you've already got something of a "convertible light" option. I agree with previous posters who have pointed out that there is the "extended part" of the frunk where the front motor probably fits. And from the Model X images you can see that the front motor is smaller so it would probably fit there.
A new (bigger) battery I'd be more surprised about, since it's not just sticking a new version of the 18650 cells in a pack, it would require a lot of redesign and new considerations as you now would have other voltages, other amperages, you'd have to maybe use other wiring, a new inverter, maybe a higher spec. motor if you want to take full advantage of the performance, etc. etc. That would be unlikely to be something they could introduce "next year". AWD on the other hand is something they have already developed, tested, etc. for the Model X.
Laumb
smrtass.
That is possible. Of course, you won't get any more performance out of a 60 kWh or 40 kWh battery pack by improving the motor and electronics, as the battery is the limiting factor. But it is possible Tesla might come with a supercapacitor-pack which can be fitted to the 40 and 60 kWh versions for short-duration bursts of energy. It might also be a part of an upgraded 85 kWh performance version.
I doubt it though. Such a solution would probably be more expensive than simply upgrading the battery.
Raffy.Roma
Rome (Italy)
I don't think that the frunk would be sacrificed with AWD. If you look at the frunk of Model X AWD it's almost the same as Model S 2WD.
Raffy.Roma
Rome (Italy)
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