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Hi! I'm new to forums. . .so I am a little uncertain on how this works. A friend of mine encouraged me to peruse and post on Tesla forums to see if anyone else has the same problems I have had with Tesla

I ordered my X on Dec 16th and I was told my delivery date would be Dec 31st. On Dec 31st, it felt like ALL of Los Angeles was picking up a Tesla.

I wanted to recap the situation with the delivery day experience. I completely understand that it was chaotic and a lot of other clients wanted to pick up their cars prior to the deadline.

When we arrived, we had a 20-25min wait. We were greeted by Ray. He found a nearby tall table with bar stools and laid out the paperwork for me to sign.
When I asked him about the $1000 deposit my brother made on the Model 3, and if it was transferred to this sale, he had no idea. He also said that Tesla does not transfer deposits like that. After seeing the final amount due ($97,785.51) was close to Evan's (sales side) estimate ($97,778), I guessed it should have been correct.

The table had a wet coffee ring on it and Ray made no effort to wipe it up. I finally was annoyed enough, trying to write $97,785.51 in checks balancing on a small bar top table and navigating around wet coffee, that I had to ask him to clean it up. He reluctantly went and got a wet paper towel to wipe the coffee.

I wrote two checks. (1) $52,785.51 and (2) $45,000

We were asked to wait again and was escorted to our car out on the lot. The delivery specialist only knew BARE BASICS of the car. She was nice, but had no idea about anything in terms of warranty and details of the vehicle. She told me that if we didn’t find the problem right then and there, Tesla WOULD NOT FIX IT OR BE RESPONSIBLE for it. We were scrambling to make sure the car was OK. We found condensation water in the tail light, we saw mis matched door handles, we saw mismatched seams with the door and body of the car and a few other seal issues around the windows when they were rolled down (the plastic is all jagged and unevenly cut!), paint chips on the doors. She said we would be contacted by service.

On the drive home I realized there was a marble, or something rolling around in my driver side door. It was ANNOYING and LOUD.
When I arrived home and opened the falcon door, an ENTIRE seals was hanging off the frame which was not seen in the delivery lot. When I emailed the delivery coordinator, her reply was “please get to a service center ASAP”

I was never contacted by service.

Jan 11th--- I started to get harassing emails from Tonieanne in the Utah finance center. They stated the delivery center scanned a check incorrectly . . .she was not getting a response from the delivery specialist, so I need get her a new check and pay for stop payment on the original check. It is completely not my job to clean up an internal error. If the first check is not found, I will not be responsible for paying for it’s cancellation. I also refuse to accept any culpability of Telsa not getting the funds on time. On Dec 31st, 2018, I was told to write a total amount of $97,785.51. I finally contacted a manager in sales and they found the check a day later . . . in a drawer OF CHECKS!

After this check fiasco, I finally got an appointment with service.

While waiting for my service date of Feb 7th to roll around, I drove the car! That's when the software problems started. . .the key was not being picked up by the car, the car would not start, the autopilot was not working, the turn signals were not working . . . After calling service in a total panic 4-5x and having to reboot my car every time I tried to drive it, I had a sinking feeling something was not right.

Turns out my computer was totally shot and the whole thing had to be replaced.

No one knows where any of the photos taken by the delivery specialist went. So I reviewed everything again with service and asked them to fix the seals and the door handle mis alignments. I asked them to touch up a paint chip. All this and the computer replacement took two weeks. They gave me a loaner for two weeks.

I went in yesterday to pick up my car - - - and one of the parking attendants parked my BRAND NEW CAR next to a brick wall. . . and walked away to wipe his draining ear piercing. No one brought the car to me --- instead if was left down a ways in the alley. Everyone else who was picking up their car, had their vehicle pulled up to the front door. Mine was left in the alley. My mom walked over to get into the car, a gust of wind slams the door into the brick wall. . . RESCRATCHING the paint chipped side that was just repaired. Add insult to injury --- the service adviser on staff said THEY WERE NOT GOING TO FIX IT since my mother opened the door by herself - - - AND the parts department DID NOT HAVE TOUCH UP PAINT. On the drive home, there is a new rolling noise under the passenger seat. I have contacted a service manager and I have to take the car back in again.

I have never felt so frustrated. In any other luxury car setting, this would NOT be tolerated. But with Tesla this seems like a NORM??? I'm really torn. The car drives well. . .but with all of the subpar service, I'm not sure how long my sanity will last!

Am I alone out here? Or are there more owners out there with similar experiences?
 
So most of the issues have been addressed on the first visit with a new noise that you will need to take in again. This is pretty typical and Tesla will try their best to fix it. For the paint they did touch it up but your mom damaged it herself. I don’t know why you are blaming them parking next to the wall. If you feel entitled because this is a “luxury” car then you are in for some disappointments. Tesla is not known to treat a 150k Model S/X owner any different than a 50k Model 3 owner.

Which service center is this? The one I go to in Torrance has a long brick wall from front to back and it’s very typical that my car is pulled next to the wall. In fact it was never pulled to the front for me.
 
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So most of the issues have been addressed on the first visit with a new noise that you will need to take in again. This is pretty typical and Tesla will try their best to fix it. For the paint they did touch it up but your mom damaged it herself. I don’t know why you are blaming them parking next to the wall. If you feel entitled because this is a “luxury” car then you are in for some disappointments. Tesla is not known to treat a 150k Model S/X owner any different than a 50k Model 3 owner.

Which service center is this? The one I go to in Torrance has a long brick wall from front to back and it’s very typical that my car is pulled next to the wall. In fact it was never pulled to the front for me.


Thanks for the reply! I guess that's what I had not anticipated. . . the lack of "luxury" at that price tag. I guess I need to change my outlook and accept it as "buying technology" --- kinda like when we were kids and we got Apple IIc computers instead of PCs. . .

I was at West LA - by the 405. It's in a narrow alley way. Five other ppl picked up cars at that time. They all had their cars brought to the lobby door. . . mine was left squished in the alley.

Thanks again for replying! I do appreciate the new outlook.
 
I know how you feel. It is not fun the first couple months but afterwards it is just a breeze with the car and you will not be bothered by their awful service anymore. The car will make you happy again once it is working up to snuff!
 
Am I alone out here? Or are there more owners out there with similar experiences?
First off copy/paste your original post to [email protected] and include your VIN. I would also attach any of the PDF's they sent you after service visits too.

While it's not unusual to have some issues with Tesla's (I had a few and have a very early MX which were known to have major issues) your overall experience is not good. Tesla should be aware of it outside of the service center.

If they are going to be successful as a automobile provider (manufacture/delivery/service) then they are going to have to up their game. It's especially important that they are consistent too. Just because you are in LA or the Bay Area, you should not expect poor service.
 
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Our X has only had 2 issues so far. The driver window came detached from some internal mechanism making the windows difficult to raise or lower. And a small area of paint was damaged during transport. Both issues were taken care of in a timely fashion at a service center.
 
I know how you feel. It is not fun the first couple months but afterwards it is just a breeze with the car and you will not be bothered by their awful service anymore. The car will make you happy again once it is working up to snuff!

I simply couldn't agree more with this statement.

I went through similar issues and coming from the REFINED world of Mercedes Benz, I was expecting a level of.... well.... i hate to admit it now but.... well, -suck up- that I did not get with Tesla. :) And to add insult to my ego injuries, the car had several issues in the beginning, one of those "issues" left me stranded 300 miles from home.

That's all water under the bridge now, and I am happy to say that the car is near perfect. I have gotten used to the "New Frontier" mentality and level of service. The centers are overworked and (I presume) underpaid. They do a great job if given the opportunity and shown a little appreciation and empathy.

I am in no way discounting your concerns or experience and I firmly believe that the "Getting the car delivered and fix it later" mentality is a bad strategy and I hope they cease the practice.

All this being said. It is a FINE automobile and you will love the car.

Personally, I don't know if I would ever be able to have a daily driver that didn't do most of the driving again. :)

Hang in there.
 
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What was your experience with customer support?

In the first 3 months, I visited 3 different SCs with over 12 appts to get things fixed like the driver seat squeaking, driver window not rolling up, falcon wing door misalignment, water leaking into the interior, acceleration shudder, driving lining peeling off, middle center console cubby detaching, disconnected wiring pin passengers eats, voice command turning on anytime someone centers the car, etc etc etc. I have a list with my lawyer with over 20 issues and still consider doing a buyback to this day. I haven't had a problem in the past month and that is the longest I have had to enjoy my car. Every time I look elsewhere, I get disappointed with the alternative options and stay with the Tesla. Mercedes SUVs are not updated yet, the G-Wagon especially has serious issues right now in the 2019 model year, the BMW SUVs have ugly front bumper grills, and Range Rover does not evoke technology to me.
 
I simply couldn't agree more with this statement.

I went through similar issues and coming from the REFINED world of Mercedes Benz, I was expecting a level of.... well.... i hate to admit it now but.... well, -suck up- that I did not get with Tesla. :) And to add insult to my ego injuries, the car had several issues in the beginning, one of those "issues" left me stranded 300 miles from home.

That's all water under the bridge now, and I am happy to say that the car is near perfect. I have gotten used to the "New Frontier" mentality and level of service. The centers are overworked and (I presume) underpaid. They do a great job if given the opportunity and shown a little appreciation and empathy.

I am in no way discounting your concerns or experience and I firmly believe that the "Getting the car delivered and fix it later" mentality is a bad strategy and I hope they cease the practice.

All this being said. It is a FINE automobile and you will love the car.

Personally, I don't know if I would ever be able to have a daily driver that didn't do most of the driving again. :)

Hang in there.
Thank you for that encouraging post. . .!! I also came from a Benz. . . and it has been mind boggling. . . but the drive is starting to make up for it! ;)
Have a wonderful week!
 
Thank you for that encouraging post. . .!! I also came from a Benz. . . and it has been mind boggling. . . but the drive is starting to make up for it! ;)
Have a wonderful week!
Glad to hear: Benz is a more mature company. I remember in the early part of this century there were tremendous problems with Benz software. The electronics were a nightmare! ...Tesla actually looks good compared...

I'm more encouraged, now. I'd thought your name Pike X was from pike, as in to stick a stick through it. Thanks for the kind reply.
 
Tesla may not position themselves as a luxury brand, but when every other competitor at the price point is considered a luxury vehicle it’s not hard to see why people make the comparisons. It’s the space Tesla occupies whether they want to or not.

Excusing build and service issues because they’re a “startup” or “more of a technology company” seems to be a very common but at the end of the day buyers are going to compare a $100k car to other $100k cars. Tesla can’t rely on early adopter mentality forever. At some point they’ll need to start having build quality and service commensurate with their competitors if they want to be something other than a niche product for people who can afford to waste their time at a service center endlessly vs paying for quality in the first place.

And I say all of that as someone who test drove an X a couple of times, absolutely LOVED it, but couldn’t justify the price given the service and reliability uncertainty.
 
Tesla may not position themselves as a luxury brand, but when every other competitor at the price point is considered a luxury vehicle it’s not hard to see why people make the comparisons. It’s the space Tesla occupies whether they want to or not.

Excusing build and service issues because they’re a “startup” or “more of a technology company” seems to be a very common but at the end of the day buyers are going to compare a $100k car to other $100k cars. Tesla can’t rely on early adopter mentality forever. At some point they’ll need to start having build quality and service commensurate with their competitors if they want to be something other than a niche product for people who can afford to waste their time at a service center endlessly vs paying for quality in the first place.

And I say all of that as someone who test drove an X a couple of times, absolutely LOVED it, but couldn’t justify the price given the service and reliability uncertainty.
Yeah, the "Tesla doesn't say they are a luxury car maker" is a horsepockey excuse. Even if the battery costs 30k, it's still a 70k car. Dude Musk called it "the faberge egg of cars" not the Cadbury creme egg of cars.
 
Am I alone out here? Or are there more owners out there with similar experiences?

Your expectations deviated so dramatically from what you received and experienced that you're wondering if this is "normal" and if it's okay for you to be upset.

No, it's not normal, and yes, you should be upset.

Now I see the latest tesla apologist argument is that "they aren't a luxury brand". Well, take it from someone who has bought non-luxury his entire life: When I bought all my economy cars, not once was the experience anywhere close to what you describe. It's indefensible for any car company at any price point.
 
Your expectations deviated so dramatically from what you received and experienced that you're wondering if this is "normal" and if it's okay for you to be upset.

No, it's not normal, and yes, you should be upset.

Now I see the latest tesla apologist argument is that "they aren't a luxury brand". Well, take it from someone who has bought non-luxury his entire life: When I bought all my economy cars, not once was the experience anywhere close to what you describe. It's indefensible for any car company at any price point.

I agree that some responses on here were a bit critical. I don't think the OP is being "entitled". It's a large purchase whether or not you try to justify that it's not a "luxury" brand. I think when it comes to customer service, that should be a business model for any type of company. How do you retain clients and build your reputation? You don't want to be known as a brand that doesn't care about their customer base and only about making a sale and the bottom line.

I think the OP has every right to be upset. I would escalate to a manager if your issues were not addressed appropriately. My pickup experience was not bad nor was it great but I'll be damned if I had car issues right off the bat and they were not trying to fix these issues with a sense of urgency.