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TeslaFi unrecorded journey/charge

The Energie charger at Fleet has been replaced with 2 new 50kW chargers.
They are free to use for a week - which is nice.

also you don't pay for parking whilst charging, which is also nice.

working well. Getting 39kW at 60% SOC

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Ok, now I have an explaination for the poor charge, I think I also have an explanation for TeslaFi unrecorded journey/charge

I had a second instance of this but seeing it happen there and then rather than retrospectively having to remember the circumstances, I believe this happened. I suspect I have a wrong setting or there is a shortfall in Api/TeslaFi logging capabilities.

Scenario. About 30 mins prior to my wife leaving for work, I decided to experiment with pre heating the car. So, used app to set climate, which would have woken it. This transition is recorded in TeslaFi at 07:26 as car transitioned from sleep to park/idle.

The idle is then reported in TeslaFi as finishing at 08:13. However the car would have started its journey at just prior to 08:00 - I suspect, some point between 07:57 and 08:00 but don't hold me to those exact timings. So whilst TeslaFi says that its a drive from Home to Work, as confirmed from start and endpoint map, it incorrectly records that drive as 08:13 - 08:24 and the GPS tracking truncated the first approx 10 mins of the journey.

So, what did TeslaFi say was happening?

From TeslaFi 60 second drive logs, 07:57 to 08:12, in other words, the time I believe car departed to point TeslaFi said car was driving, TeslaFi reports "TeslaFi Sleep Mode Sleep Attempt", followed by 14 minutes of "Trying To Sleep" followed by "Vehicle Did Not Fall Asleep" and eventually at 08:13 "Idling->Driving".

So I believe that TeslaFi started to allow the car to sleep by not polling the car. This critically coincided with the start of the journey. It then failed for whatever reason, to realise that the car was driving during the first period of the drive.

During this period, I am not sure if TeslaFi should have been polling the Tesla Servers (but not the car to avoid waking the car) or whether there is no return from the TeslaApi that TeslaFi should be able to use to detect that car is driving without waking it if it isn't.

Or I have a setting wrong - unfortunately I cannot remember the sleep setting I changed 4 weeks back.
Or there is some reason why TeslaFi should have caught the drive earlier, but didn't.


Otherwise I am delighted with TeslaFi and I will be today extending my trial to a full years subscription and hopefully longer if the few people that used my referral code also become subscribers.
 

Jason71

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May 8, 2019
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Shropshire
The thing is the Op said that Teslafi reported the car as offline during the problem period. The state attribute is part of the vehicle api which does NOT wake up the car so Teslafi is supposed to be pinging that all the time. That is how it finds out that the car has woken up i.e. it will show as online. If is is showing as offline then in theory that means that for whatever reason the car was not connected to the internet for that period so there was no way Teslafi could get the data
It is a bit hidden.

Browse to the TeslaFi.com page> Settings > Account and then go to the "Advanced" section and click the "Tesla API Access" link. This will show you the TeslaFi token you need to browse with and the list of available commands to make up the URL you need.

For example, the command I was describing was https://www.teslafi.com/feed.php?token=[your_TeslaFi_token_here]&command=wake_up

You can check you have the correct URL by just browsing to it on any browser on PC or mobile device and checking that you get a valid response (the wake_up command returns a list of options codes for your particular car).

I am not familiar with IOS but if you can get your device to browse or post that URL whenever you connect to your Tesla Bluetooth then you should find that TeslaFi wakes up whenever you connect.

Hope that helps?
The thing is the Op said that Teslafi reported the car as offline during the problem period every minute. Offline is not the same as sleeping. and there is no way it was sleeping while being driven and charged anyway. The state attribute is part of the vehicle api which does NOT wake up the car so Teslafig pings that every minute irrespective of whether the car was asleep. That is how it finds out that the car has woken up i.e. it will show as online.
If is is showing as offline then in theory that means that for whatever reason the car was not connected to Teslas Servers for that period so there was no way Teslafi could get the data. This means either there was an issue with the car, the cars data connection or Teslas servers.
The problem is not with Teslafi and there is literally nothing that Teslafi can do about this.
 

WannabeOwner

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Nov 2, 2015
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Suffolk, UK
Something is waking up the car? any suggestions

Change the password? That will prevent any APP (which you might have forgotten about) from connecting. Then set a new password, and only? give that to TeslaFi and see if that fixes things

Then give the password to Phone APP / anything else that you use.

If they all work then maybe you had an additional APP that you had trialled that was still connecting.
 
Good suggestions guys. Thanks!

The only other app is Tesla Remote but I use that regularly. Seems to have settled now :)


Change the password? That will prevent any APP (which you might have forgotten about) from connecting. Then set a new password, and only? give that to TeslaFi and see if that fixes things

Then give the password to Phone APP / anything else that you use.

If they all work then maybe you had an additional APP that you had trialled that was still connecting.
 
I think Teslafi has been pretty good, I like all the stats you can get from it but I have had one unrecorded journey and thought it was a one off but last week i went down to Holsworthy in Devon from Taunton and it only recorded from where i got off of the A30 at the Holsworthy junction, I didnt stop at the services there either so its not like the car went in to park then set off again but thats the only things l've noticed with it.
 

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