My tone is absolutely fine. And yes it is difficult when you get defensive and I have to explain something that did not need explaining in the first place. Be that as it may, Im glad ive managed to clear your mind
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Teslas and UK ‘don’t touch your phone’ laws
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Forgive me JS, but it did come across as a bit arsey.My tone is absolutely fine. And yes it is difficult when you get defensive and I have to explain something that did not need explaining in the first place. Be that as it may, Im glad ive managed to clear your mind
By all means. For context this relates to the above quote. God blimey. If that sound arsey you would not want to catch me having a bad day
It's a car forum, not a display of willys.By all means. For context this relates to the above quote. God blimey. If that sound arsey you would not want to catch me having a bad day
In car screens aren't covered by the mobile phone legislation which is specifically aimed at handheld devices.
Being distracted by in car UIs, etc could be dealt with by means of a Driving Without Due Care and Attention prosecution.
I can only presume that the reason for the specific legislation prosecuting handheld use is because a) there have been studies that show a clear link between their use and diminished driving competence and b) it enables a distinct and unambiguous penalty when prosecuted - unlike DWDCA which evaluates culpabillity and has a range of punishment.
Legislation can be quite slow to catch up to technology of yesteryear, let alone current stuff. It wasn't until fairly recently that the mobile phone Law was tightened up to disallow taking photos and other "non interactive communication" usages. I could imagine a world where legislation is revised in due time to punish car UI use specifically, like mobile phones, as they are becoming more and more dominating within the car (particularly where car functions are relegated to the screen).
Being distracted by in car UIs, etc could be dealt with by means of a Driving Without Due Care and Attention prosecution.
I can only presume that the reason for the specific legislation prosecuting handheld use is because a) there have been studies that show a clear link between their use and diminished driving competence and b) it enables a distinct and unambiguous penalty when prosecuted - unlike DWDCA which evaluates culpabillity and has a range of punishment.
Legislation can be quite slow to catch up to technology of yesteryear, let alone current stuff. It wasn't until fairly recently that the mobile phone Law was tightened up to disallow taking photos and other "non interactive communication" usages. I could imagine a world where legislation is revised in due time to punish car UI use specifically, like mobile phones, as they are becoming more and more dominating within the car (particularly where car functions are relegated to the screen).
Yes, it will probably happen imho. It's mostly a case of some people bad decision that trigger these legislations. This is why the law exists after all. I think there was rumours of it recently but it won't surprise me if if car speeds get restricted (actually within the software) as to ensure full compliance. It's all forever changing.
Seeing as how one can make the phone call using voice commands and you speaking as though you had a passenger I can't see how you'd violate any no cell phone while driving law
Both are the same. Illegal only if you aren’t in full control of the vehicle/careless/dangerous driving. You aren’t holding the phone and therefore the specific handheld device laws don’t apply.
Or getting a chewed up tape out of the tape player, finding a radio station, adjusting the heater ......What happened to days of glancing at the map on the passenger seat
Or changing a CD if you are a bit younger
Or worse still, if you were a bit posh, ejecting the 6 CD cassette and retrieving it from under the passenger seat, swapping out a couple of disks and putting it back in.
Or simply talking to a passenger/kid in the back can distract you enough so you’ll fall foul of driving without due care.
At the end of the day you’ll only be fined if you are weaving all over the road in front of the police, cause a collision or some kind of other traffic offence and caught on dash cam.
Sounds sensible.
If the car manufacturer makes it so that it is impossible to fully control your car without using a non-tactile interface (like a touchscreen), and you basically have to divert your attention from the road in order to control things like wipers, where does that leave us?
It seems to me that perhaps the regulations need an update and there needs to be a list of core functions that have to be accessible using a no-eyes-required interface (like a control stalk).
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....I used to get a glancing blow from the passenger seat map when directions didn't match reality.What happened to days of glancing at the map on the passenger seat
Ah, yes. The reason I bought my first automatic transmission was for the convenience of driving around London with the A-Z in my left handWhat happened to days of glancing at the map on the passenger seat
It wouldn't a problem if you could control the functions by voice. I tried to demist the front windscreen, I got the reply it could find any song by that title. After a dozen attempts I had to use the touch screen, as they advise you only to use the hard shoulder for emergencies only.
I have had similar experiences. I'm from the home counties so normally my accent is generic enough that voice assistants work for me, but I find Tesla's to be terrible. Once when I realised I didn't know where I was going I asked for voice guidance to be turned on to have the car cheerfully cancel navigation completely. Not only did it get it wrong but it managed to do it in a way that was 180 degrees opposite what I was asking for.
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