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Tesla's rules for owner's clubs, full text

Discussion in 'Tesla Motors' started by e-FTW, May 31, 2016.

  1. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    Am sure this has been discussed before, but it popped up again today, and Transport Evolved has a link to the full text:
    Tesla enlists owners' clubs to be lobbying army; insists on it, in fact
    " [...] by placing too many requirements on owners' clubs, Tesla conceivably risks alienating at least some of the very fans that have been such an important factor in its success.

    Tesla boasts owner loyalty most carmakers can only dream about. A heavy hand could risk squandering some of that good will for its most involved owners."

    Transport Evolved's article has been updated with a link to the full text of the agreement up top: Want To Be An Official Tesla Owners' Club? Be Prepared To Agree To These Terms First
     
  2. trils0n

    trils0n 2013 P85

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    "Provide reasonable assistance in the following areas:
    Supporting local legislative efforts"

    Doesn't seem like an onerous requirement. I assume it means they will send your club email or notice about any hearings for legislation so owners can mobilize if they wish.

    The other two items they request reasonable assistance in are:
    Surveys / Focus Groups
    Participate in "test groups" for new software

    Seems like a good deal to me. I'd love to be able to test new software
     
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  3. zambono

    zambono Member

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    Seems like things club members would do anyways
     
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  4. Newscutter

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    Have not seen anything anywhere to submit a club application?

    Also haven't seen anything to suggest there is any upside to being an official club OTHER than perhaps official sanction to name/logo.
     
  5. Cebe

    Cebe Member

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    Are we reading the same document? :) I see:

    • Tesla intends to provide access to a Tesla store / service center of Tesla’s choosing to hold a club event up to once per calendar year.
    • Tesla may arrange for product specialists or other personnel to attend such club event.
    • Tesla intends to provide a 35% Tesla merchandise discount code ... once per calendar year.
    • Tesla intends to offer Eligible Clubs a direct line of communication to provide comments and suggestions to Tesla
    • Tesla will consider promoting a past or upcoming event hosted by an Eligible Club via official Tesla social media channels...
     
  6. e-FTW

    e-FTW New electron smell

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    There are some less tasty bits too. There is an NDA and an Owners Club Agreement to sign. You are also requested to help fight IP infringement and data breaches. Those are valid requests, but it depends how they are applied and interpreted.
    Quoting TransportEvolved:
    "In its most severe interpretation, an IP infringement could be as simple as a club member sharing information about how Tesla’s massive 17-inch touchscreen system is connected, or how they were able to carry out minor accident repair to their car on the cheap. Projects like the Stretchla (already shut down more than two years ago after Tesla refused to sell parts to the individual in question), su-tesla, and the Tesla Model S Autopilot Retrofit project could all fall foul of this clause, in short, killing any DIY repair among Tesla owners."

    I am no lawyer, and am sure leadership around here knows what the deal is. The goodies do sound pretty neat! But they need to weigh both sides.
     
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  7. thecloud

    thecloud As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive

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    I also am no lawyer, but that part definitely sounds worrisome. A club that signs the agreement could be compelled to censor or remove any posts that Tesla deems to be infringing or just doesn't want out there.
     
  8. Newscutter

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    Oh-- didn't see those. Much better. But still, the inability to have free conversation with regards to repairs/mods/etc. is kind of a deal killer. I mean, what's a club going to do instead?

    "HEY! I like my car-- it's perfect!"
    "WELL HEY! SO IS MINE!"
    <clink solo cups and sit down>
     
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  9. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole with those clauses. After all, Tesla has refused to help fight IP infringment committed by Tesla...

    I don't care about the goodies. Freedom of action is more important.
     

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