Not even. All cars running 6.x have access to real time data:
The capability is poorly leveraged, IMO.
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Not even. All cars running 6.x have access to real time data:
The capability is poorly leveraged, IMO.
Let me suggest that at least one person doesn't agree with you. I want my quick charge, not shared slow(er) charge.Yes, the time adds up, particularly on longer journeys.I actually don't think there is much of an issue here. Because of tapering, you can get to pretty much full charge rate per SOC very quickly no matter what. Remember, the paired car is also tapering so the window of exposure where you are getting less than your SOC allows, is quite small. There is also the issue of parking skill ... some folks just aren't comfortable backing in between cars or next to a concrete wall. Therefore, they do not care much about the charge rate, but care greatly about the ease of parking and not scratching your car in the next stall.
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What I don't like is how the Stalls were done compared to human nature.
Guys are taught not to use the stall right next to one being used. So we'll naturally leave a space in between the stalls to give the person space.
But, Tesla is all confused.
When I pull in its 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 1B, 2B, 3B, 4B
So what happens is a mix between people who know the Tesla A/B system, and they'll park accordingly versus those that don't know the A/B system who park according to proper stall etiquette.
We wouldn't have a problem if they were
1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B
Guys are taught not to use the stall right next to one being used. So we'll naturally leave a space in between the stalls to give the person space.
But, Tesla is all confused.
When I pull in its 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 1B, 2B, 3B, 4B
So what happens is a mix between people who know the Tesla A/B system, and they'll park accordingly versus those that don't know the A/B system who park according to proper stall etiquette.
We wouldn't have a problem if they were
1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B, 4A, 4B
roblab
Active Member
They are both ways. You just haven't been to where they are 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, etc., I guess. It must be dependent on how the contractor feels the day he is feeding wires into the conduits.
cpa
Active Member
hingisfan
hingisfan_Mark_V
Again, this would require new hardware. Tesla can solve this simply by upgrading the car's software. No need to get any fancier about it.
cpa
Active Member
This seems simplest and best. My wife does not know what an ampere is, has no interest in understanding what it is, and will forget what it is 30 seconds after I explain it to her. I bet that the vast majority of the ordinary public is the same way. A display on the 17" screen that shows the best available stall would be much easier for her and everybody else.
The driver wants to know which stall will provide the fastest charging. Why not just provide that information?
Exactly! A simple number that shows which one is fastest does that job perfectly. The highest number is the fastest. It can be Ampere, it can be Watt, it can be whatever. Everyone who passed a driver license test will be able to read a single number and determine which one is higher
Exactly! A simple number that shows which one is fastest does that job perfectly. The highest number is the fastest. It can be Ampere, it can be Watt, it can be whatever. Everyone who passed a driver license test will be able to read a single number and determine which one is higher
Or, it can be the only number that matters--the stall number.
I get what you're after, but every engineering minute spent providing drivers superfluous information that doesnt do anything but allow a few owners to geek out is a minute lost developing things that are actually useful to all drivers.
mspohr
Well-Known Member
I like this idea.
At one point Elon mentioned that in the future, he would like to use the networked potential of the cars and Superchargers to direct you to chargers. If a charger was full, the nav system would route you to another station with free spots.
Telling you which charging spot to use would be a "simple" software change. They already have the information. It's just a matter of sending it to the car.
(Note: I understand that "simple" software changes are often difficult and time consuming. I'm also sure that the software team has a big long list of "simple" changes to make. However, it wouldn't hurt to put this in the queue.)
cpa
Active Member
David99, I have worked with the public since 1970 in all sorts of endeavors, from retail sales to my personal accounting practice. People forget. People do not understand or misunderstand. People fail to see the correlation between causes and effects or direct versus inverse relationships. Not everybody has a razor-sharp mind that can remember something totally outside the ordinary course of their daily lives. Undoubtedly for you, life's lessons are easy and second nature, and you do not forget or fail to comprehend regardless of the subject matter. But not everyone is cut from the same cloth, and not everyone will remember the direct relationship between a number and speed of charging, particularly for those who rarely Supercharge.
Trust me, I had customers back in the day working retail, and clients currently who just do not grasp certain things. Are these people simple? No. But they have other priorities in life, and to recall tidbits of useful information is just not that important to them. Cheers!
roblab
Active Member
The ones that don't care plug in and go eat or go shopping. They come back in a half hour or hour.
The ones that care count stalls and check pairing and park and fidget while their car charges. 20 minutes later they rush out, go home, and sit and watch TV all evening. But they were faster.
At least that's how it seems to me.
What's the rush? 5 minutes makes a difference? Really? And when you get caught in traffic, what? And then you meet an old friend at the store and stop to talk. I don't believe it.
Life's too short.
The ones that care count stalls and check pairing and park and fidget while their car charges. 20 minutes later they rush out, go home, and sit and watch TV all evening. But they were faster.
At least that's how it seems to me.
What's the rush? 5 minutes makes a difference? Really? And when you get caught in traffic, what? And then you meet an old friend at the store and stop to talk. I don't believe it.
Life's too short.
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